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What do you guys do about RESISTS w/ this guide. I followed it pretty completely and the only thing giving resists are the Arreats, torch, and anni. How are you guys gettin resists especially with the dual ravens setup?


Small charms and resi boots. Highlord gives light resi etc..


well wat if ur using 35+ x 32020 where do resists come from then?
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What do you guys do about RESISTS w/ this guide. I followed it pretty completely and the only thing giving resists are the Arreats, torch, and anni. How are you guys gettin resists especially with the dual ravens setup?


Small charms and resi boots. Highlord gives light resi etc..


well wat if ur using 35+ x 32020 where do resists come from then?



TRIPLE RESISTANCE BOOTS, 5/5'S. mass 32020s is bad, rather use a balance between 32020s and 20/36s and rest 20/17s and 20/11s.

64+40+30+20:154, so you have 54% all res in hell. That leaves you with 2x 20/11s for each element, but if you use 40 triple resistance boots, you already got all necessary resistances, however it's good to stack about 30 over 75, due to the Anya Bug.

btw, if you got 9.3k ar and are lvl 91, with an opponent with 25k def and lvl 99, you got 26.1% chance to hit, not counting any block.

However, with 25k ar you have 47.89 chance to hit, which turns to 11.9% after max block. This is probably the worst case scenario against hammerdins, I mean, high def, max block, higher lvl than you're. If you're the same level, you got exactly 50% chance to hit, which is 12.5% after maximum blocking.

The _best_ scenario would be 95% chance to hit, after maximum block that turns into 23.75%. Funny.

This post was edited by olba on Jul 20 2006 02:14pm
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all those stats r shit.

what 1 ww is like 10-12 hits???

so u should hit anyone ez at least once

if u get lucky u may almost pk them in 1 ww(happens like every 7-10 shots)

hammers r usually ez high def or no...

and btw when hammer teles on u there is greater chance to hit him bc of recovery rate from tele to block.

if he charges at ur ww or cuts it its like 3x hits usually dead.

This post was edited by og_loc_resurection on Jul 20 2006 05:21pm
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[QUOTE=og_loc_resurection,Thu, Jul 20 2006, 11:20pm]
all those stats r shit.

what 1 ww is like 10-12 hits???[/quote]

1 hitcheck each 4 frames, on 4th it's only primary, following frames primary+secondary. However, that doesn't guarantee your chances to always hit. a proper triwhirl lasts for three hitchecks, making it total 5 hits, 3 grief hits, 2 beast hits.

[quote]so u should hit anyone ez at least once[/quote]

But 1 hit is barely ever enough. With perfect gear, 1 grief hit does about 1300ish PvP damage. That's not gonna kill a 4k life Hammerdin.

[quote]if u get lucky u may almost pk them in 1 ww(happens like every 7-10 shots)

Gogo deadly strike on each hit per triwhirl and hits in each hitcheck. That ends up at about 3800 damage at _least_ However, this doesn't count in any DR%.

hammers r usually ez high def or no...

[quote]and btw when hammer teles on u there is greater chance to hit him bc of recovery rate from tele to block.

Yes, however a good hammerdin never teleports on top, but the sides.

[quote]if he charges at ur ww or cuts it its like 3x hits usually dead.[/QUOTE]

Good desynch hammerdins can hide their presence from you petty well. However, the best desyncher on EU, Goldwrap, plays a Smiter.

This post was edited by olba on Jul 22 2006 03:24pm
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NIce guide
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yes this is an increadible guide i just hope i have time to finish my build b4 ladder resets lol d-lol.gif
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What do you guys do about RESISTS w/ this guide. I followed it pretty completely and the only thing giving resists are the Arreats, torch, and anni. How are you guys gettin resists especially with the dual ravens setup?


Small charms and resi boots. Highlord gives light resi etc..


well wat if ur using 35+ x 32020 where do resists come from then?



TRIPLE RESISTANCE BOOTS, 5/5'S. mass 32020s is bad, rather use a balance between 32020s and 20/36s and rest 20/17s and 20/11s.

64+40+30+20:154, so you have 54% all res in hell. That leaves you with 2x 20/11s for each element, but if you use 40 triple resistance boots, you already got all necessary resistances, however it's good to stack about 30 over 75, due to the Anya Bug.

btw, if you got 9.3k ar and are lvl 91, with an opponent with 25k def and lvl 99, you got 26.1% chance to hit, not counting any block.

However, with 25k ar you have 47.89 chance to hit, which turns to 11.9% after max block. This is probably the worst case scenario against hammerdins, I mean, high def, max block, higher lvl than you're. If you're the same level, you got exactly 50% chance to hit, which is 12.5% after maximum blocking.

The _best_ scenario would be 95% chance to hit, after maximum block that turns into 23.75%. Funny.



umm..25k AR? lol

im using all the top gear and manage 10k?

30x perm 32020s..grief, coa, beast, the usual top gear

..
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What do you guys do about RESISTS w/ this guide. I followed it pretty completely and the only thing giving resists are the Arreats, torch, and anni. How are you guys gettin resists especially with the dual ravens setup?


Small charms and resi boots. Highlord gives light resi etc..


well wat if ur using 35+ x 32020 where do resists come from then?



TRIPLE RESISTANCE BOOTS, 5/5'S. mass 32020s is bad, rather use a balance between 32020s and 20/36s and rest 20/17s and 20/11s.

64+40+30+20:154, so you have 54% all res in hell. That leaves you with 2x 20/11s for each element, but if you use 40 triple resistance boots, you already got all necessary resistances, however it's good to stack about 30 over 75, due to the Anya Bug.

btw, if you got 9.3k ar and are lvl 91, with an opponent with 25k def and lvl 99, you got 26.1% chance to hit, not counting any block.

However, with 25k ar you have 47.89 chance to hit, which turns to 11.9% after max block. This is probably the worst case scenario against hammerdins, I mean, high def, max block, higher lvl than you're. If you're the same level, you got exactly 50% chance to hit, which is 12.5% after maximum blocking.

The _best_ scenario would be 95% chance to hit, after maximum block that turns into 23.75%. Funny.



umm..25k AR? lol

im using all the top gear and manage 10k?

30x perm 32020s..grief, coa, beast, the usual top gear

..


angelics+enchant=25-30k ar. add hsarus for 35-40k.
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What do you guys do about RESISTS w/ this guide. I followed it pretty completely and the only thing giving resists are the Arreats, torch, and anni. How are you guys gettin resists especially with the dual ravens setup?


Small charms and resi boots. Highlord gives light resi etc..


well wat if ur using 35+ x 32020 where do resists come from then?



TRIPLE RESISTANCE BOOTS, 5/5'S. mass 32020s is bad, rather use a balance between 32020s and 20/36s and rest 20/17s and 20/11s.

64+40+30+20:154, so you have 54% all res in hell. That leaves you with 2x 20/11s for each element, but if you use 40 triple resistance boots, you already got all necessary resistances, however it's good to stack about 30 over 75, due to the Anya Bug.

btw, if you got 9.3k ar and are lvl 91, with an opponent with 25k def and lvl 99, you got 26.1% chance to hit, not counting any block.

However, with 25k ar you have 47.89 chance to hit, which turns to 11.9% after max block. This is probably the worst case scenario against hammerdins, I mean, high def, max block, higher lvl than you're. If you're the same level, you got exactly 50% chance to hit, which is 12.5% after maximum blocking.

The _best_ scenario would be 95% chance to hit, after maximum block that turns into 23.75%. Funny.



umm..25k AR? lol

im using all the top gear and manage 10k?

30x perm 32020s..grief, coa, beast, the usual top gear

..


30x "perm" 32020s is _not_ the top gear. Try 33x 32020s, 4x 5/11s or 5/5s. Or even better, 3-5x 20/17s, 28-30x 32020s, 4x 5/5s.

You got all the top gear but have never heard of Angelics or Hsarus? NEAT!
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Quote (vincevaler @ Sat, Jun 10 2006, 10:56am)
What do you guys do about RESISTS w/ this guide. I followed it pretty completely and the only thing giving resists are the Arreats, torch, and anni. How are you guys gettin resists especially with the dual ravens setup?


Small charms and resi boots. Highlord gives light resi etc..


well wat if ur using 35+ x 32020 where do resists come from then?



TRIPLE RESISTANCE BOOTS, 5/5'S. mass 32020s is bad, rather use a balance between 32020s and 20/36s and rest 20/17s and 20/11s.

64+40+30+20:154, so you have 54% all res in hell. That leaves you with 2x 20/11s for each element, but if you use 40 triple resistance boots, you already got all necessary resistances, however it's good to stack about 30 over 75, due to the Anya Bug.

btw, if you got 9.3k ar and are lvl 91, with an opponent with 25k def and lvl 99, you got 26.1% chance to hit, not counting any block.

However, with 25k ar you have 47.89 chance to hit, which turns to 11.9% after max block. This is probably the worst case scenario against hammerdins, I mean, high def, max block, higher lvl than you're. If you're the same level, you got exactly 50% chance to hit, which is 12.5% after maximum blocking.

The _best_ scenario would be 95% chance to hit, after maximum block that turns into 23.75%. Funny.



umm..25k AR? lol

im using all the top gear and manage 10k?

30x perm 32020s..grief, coa, beast, the usual top gear

..


30x "perm" 32020s is _not_ the top gear. Try 33x 32020s, 4x 5/11s or 5/5s. Or even better, 3-5x 20/17s, 28-30x 32020s, 4x 5/5s.

You got all the top gear but have never heard of Angelics or Hsarus? NEAT!


20/17 sux, 15/70s are way better, hsarus is useless imo, not worth losing good stats or res
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