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Jun 15 2020 09:26am
Quote (hengster @ Jun 15 2020 10:51am)
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any viable non-tap shields other than stormshield, alma negra, ghoz, bitter badge and phoenix?
also, are any 24FHR 10% open wound belts good for zeal at all? just in case something nice with high enhanced defense like 200%, 30 strength and 80 life comes along...



Bitter badge is insane. I haven’t seen any other rares get close to that one. Normally the options you listed are the best ones to use since they are balanced or open up other armor options. Alma or a rare can be used with shaft. Ghoz doesn’t do that well in my experience so I just stick with hoz on bo side as did those who actually had a ghoz lol. Phoenix is banned so I never really used it much. Ss is the best non tap shield imo since it opens up the armor and helm slots more.

A rare belt is an interesting suggestion but I think verdungos is still the better option. The added fhr and stats can help but it would also require dr elsewhere to hit 50 dr. So a rare armor with bers would probably be the best choice but then you miss out on def or other stats.

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One shield option that a lot of people over look is eth upd lance guard. You won't have a socket but it'll have 20% DS and 50 life if you want something more unique. I find this shield really to only be viable with a 2 soc self repair fools, and this should works nicely with metal grid ammy and ias gloves, or a fools that already hits ias bp and can wear rends.

I use to use eth upd lance guard just to have fun. Please keep in mind the shields you listed are the top performers, but technically anything could be used if you build for. Like eth head hunters

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Jun 15 2020 10:17am
I always thought this was a interesting choice that no one ever uses doesnt have 2os but has semi decent def , but most of all fhr and dr which most looks for :unsure:


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Quote (donfromtgood @ Jun 15 2020 11:39am)
One shield option that a lot of people over look is eth upd lance guard. You won't have a socket but it'll have 20% DS and 50 life if you want something more unique. I find this shield really to only be viable with a 2 soc self repair fools, and this should works nicely with metal grid ammy and ias gloves, or a fools that already hits ias bp and can wear rends.

I use to use eth upd lance guard just to have fun. Please keep in mind the shields you listed are the top performers, but technically anything could be used if you build for. Like eth head hunters


Ah yes I forgot about that shield. Haven’t even seen one of those in a while but it’s an interesting option for sure.

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I always thought this was a interesting choice that no one ever uses doesnt have 2os but has semi decent def , but most of all fhr and dr which most looks for :unsure:


https://i.imgur.com/Dbomf59.jpg


Ah I remember using that on my pallys while leveling but can’t say I’ve used it in duels. Could use that and not need verdungos and go rare belt build?

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I don't know if this has been asked throughout this already enormous thread, but here I go. Does Max Fanaticism always do more overall zeal dmg than Max Concentration? Are there any advantages to having Max concentration instead?
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Quote (Tansky @ Jul 15 2020 11:07am)
I don't know if this has been asked throughout this already enormous thread, but here I go. Does Max Fanaticism always do more overall zeal dmg than Max Concentration? Are there any advantages to having Max concentration instead?


Nope hasn’t been asked :)

Max fanat will always be better since it provides ias and ar as well as dmg. Conc is just a damage increase

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Would you mind updating the post as to where you are now after 1400 pages for the build etc? thank you
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