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May 21 2013 11:39am
Grief > All

Lw is good for a one pt smite hdin.
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May 21 2013 06:16pm
If your smiter is solely for the purpose of UT then it makes sense to make it as good as you can. For that purpose use grief.
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May 22 2013 01:32am
IN MY OPINION THIS IS THE ORDER

GRIEF > Crescent moon (i love that static) > Black > anything else

Lw is just not worth it.. i dont see 100%cb necesary, about 75% is enough...
get life tap from wand/dracs should be enough or go for exile+dracs...

WHY grief>LW?? because of crushing blow:

as you take clone's life down, there is less life to take % life off (how crushing blow works)
life goes down fast at first and then it slows down untill the alst bit that lasts forever.

Grief's awesome raw dmg add will help you kill faster on that last bit. plus, it has ias, ignore defense, etc..

also:
5hrs for lw vs 1x Lo for grief? i think we know who is the winner
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May 22 2013 02:46am
Difference between grief and LW is small but LW gives 2-3 utilities which grief doesn't.
I'd just use LW on the sheer advantage of Fade and Life Tap and the fact you can go with any other equipment while still making it work.

Grief might kill in 7secs instead of 8 but at least you never die with LW.
And you can use enigma with LW since you don't need duress.

Basically UT smiter works with any gear.

e/ Basically it doesn't matter shit since it's PvM and everything works.
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Quote (Alone @ 22 May 2013 09:53)
it does but please, don't ever again say that LW>Grief for UT (on pure smiter)


It's just personal preference - It's PvM the bit of damage won't do shit.

I just like to have a versatile setup since grief only works better if you stack CB on equip.

This post was edited by Bling on May 22 2013 02:55am
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Quote (Bling @ 22 May 2013 10:46)
Difference between grief and LW is small but LW gives 2-3 utilities which grief doesn't.
I'd just use LW on the sheer advantage of Fade and Life Tap and the fact you can go with any other equipment while still making it work.

Grief might kill in 7secs instead of 8 but at least you never die with LW.
And you can use enigma with LW since you don't need duress.

Basically UT smiter works with any gear.


it does but please, don't ever again say that LW>Grief for UT (on pure smiter)
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Quote (Bling @ May 22 2013 10:46am)
Basically UT smiter works with any gear.


yes all you need is cb and res basically :P

i just remember beind dissapointed on using 5hrs on a sword i didnt like in the end (back when i wasnt using jsp) while grief could do a simillar/beter job for much much less.. it all comes down to personal prefference in the end ^^

lw=tank
gref=dmg
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This post was edited by ChesterMok on May 22 2013 02:54am
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Quote (ChesterMok @ 22 May 2013 09:32)
IN MY OPINION THIS IS THE ORDER

GRIEF > Crescent moon (i love that static) > Black > anything else

Where do Astreon's Iron Ward, Stormlash, Heaven's Light, and Kingslayer go in that sequence?
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May 22 2013 04:33am
Quote (Bling @ 22 May 2013 08:46)
Grief might kill in 7secs instead of 8 but at least you never die with LW.
And you can use enigma with LW since you don't need duress.


I use grief + eni on my UT smiter, and it never dies.
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May 22 2013 07:07am
Quote (testic @ May 22 2013 11:33am)
I use grief + eni on my UT smiter, and it never dies.


used that combo too with lots of resist charms in inventory
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Quote (Quorra @ May 22 2013 11:19am)
Where do Astreon's Iron Ward, Stormlash, Heaven's Light, and Kingslayer go in that sequence?


on top of last wish :thumbsup:
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