With the new patch, would you make any changes towards gear?

Less IAS, swap to ricochet get more CHC and Critical Damage Increase... Check the updated guide or my last posts on diablofans.com for more details on why it's necessary

This post was edited by Gerudo on Jun 20 2012 03:01pm

Ancient Spear is 185% weapon damage, +10% because you use "No escape." Furious charge is 195% weapon damage. That's the exact same damage. The both have a 10 second cooldown. Main difference is Furious Charge attacks several enemies (have literally gotten 18 kills with one move), meaning MORE damage, since AS is only single unit attack.

Please look at skills before arguing. Especially if you're gonna do caps and all, just makes you look like a fool :S

It's 234% Base with rage flip. It doesn't matter if it's AoE or not, why would you use two spells that do the same thing? If you have time to turn and charge you have time to turn and Ricochet, and when you don't sprint is better and generates more fury.

This post was edited by Gerudo on Jun 20 2012 07:51pm

so far i have:

1) swapped string of ears for a strength/vitality/weapon throw reduced by 4 fury belt
2) swapped ivory tower for a higher crit chance + strength/vitality shield
3) swapped my crit/ias gloves for higher crit chance/crit damage gloves.

changed my skills:

1) weapon throw (damage) to weapon throw (ricochet)
2) ancient spear (fury) to sprint (movement speed rune)
3) war cry (charge) to war cry (impunity)

I kept battle rage (into the fray) , overpower (crit chance), wrath of the berserker.

Champions own me but i am working on my kiting with sprint. It still takes a LONG time to take act 3 champions down. I also can't change battle rage (into the fray) to battle rage (damage) because i run out of fury.

I feel like the only way i can get better from this point is with my credit card (which i won't do already spent $30 on this build *_*)

This post was edited by foxracing13 on Jun 20 2012 08:58pm

You should be using Run like the Wind on sprint not additional movement speed. That has to be the problem. It's so good with Into the Fray!

You're right and wrong. It's 213% base with rage flip, the +10% damage from No Escape puts it at 234%. Even still, 195% damage to many foes > 234% damage to one foe IMO. Run Like the Wind and Furious Charged are used two completely different ways if played right. Anyways, the dude asked a question about getting stuck in corners, and if that's a problem for him then Furious Charge would be a great solution. The way I play prevents a lot of kiting from having to happen. I will intentionally let them back me into a corner, pop RLTW and FC right out of it, leaving them stuck in a corner with a tornado and me in open space again free to attack. It's extremely effective. If I were into video editing I could provide some good examples.

Once again, I'm not trying to say my build is better than yours, so please don't become so offensive calling me a fool (especially when your answer had wrong information as well). My build suits my style of play very way and results in a lot less kiting.

My bad for not typing base damage, but I was getting tired at every 1 flaming and they don't even bother reading the guide. /e btw didn't mean to come up as offensive, I'm not sure how it is in English but I just mean it can make you look stupid, doesn't necessarily mean you are or whatever. Reread myself and it sounds meaner that I wanted it to sound.

Well that's not the point, the thing is you shouldn't be getting stuck so you shouldn't waste skill slots. Charge is pretty much useless against single target and that's what's lacking with ricochet. If you don't wanna do bosses sure, but Charge is again less fury generation since you can chain multiple AS's.

Still you'd need more tank ability for the Charge to be at it's best (with the Merciless Assault rune and charge spam for AoE damage). Imo that's the best rune for damage with FC and it actually isn't bad (I use it to clear act 1-2 faster).

tl;dr Using both Sprint and Charge is a waste except for specific situation that you can avoid with Sprint but it's fine if you want to be aggressive, in that case runes like Merciless Assault give you more DPS output with good tank gear.

Btw updated gear and build, some1 asked on diablofans and I have some spare time.

Runes are

Insanity - Into the Fray - Run like the Wind - Impunity - Ricochet - Rage Flip

stats unbuffed and with 1h sword in main hand.



This post was edited by Gerudo on Jun 21 2012 05:03pm

I tried this and I had a crit chance of 46% with a 5 reduction in fury for weapon throw belt and even without Into the Fray I had no problem keeping the fury up so I was able to Maruader's Rage. With Into the Fray, I can use Sprint which just puts my Fury at Max all the time and can use the rune Berserker's Rage to get that 25% Extra damage at max fury. Anyway the difference between 4 and 5 fury reduction is quite noticeable.



If anyone is interested, I have a Belt that reduces Weapon Throw by 5 Fury that I need to get rid of. Only asking $490k.

It has
242 Armor
+77 Dex
+62 All resistance
+41 Cold Resistance
Barbarian Reduce Weapon Throw by 5 Fury

Cheap way to get 5 reduction in fury. I bought the belt and some other gears to try this build and it worked out great. I'm now trying a different build and requires some of my other gear to go so selling the belt for now.


BasRutten#1320 ingame now.

why switched shield with another weapon? and you lost all of ur movespeed?
any new video with new gear?

This post was edited by Mosuki on Jun 23 2012 02:35am