Hit this BP before, you give up too much in order to hit that BP.

AKA not worth it.

not really.

if u check my spec n gear, u will realize that my build is pretty balance. im using a 1.65aps dagger, hence explains the need of only 36% ias in gear to hit 3.34bp.

I was going to buy that dagger from AH.. but decided the DPS was too low.

that dagger is meant for ww spec. hence dps is not really an issue.

http://forums.d2jsp.org/topic.php?t=65248733&f=142

the difference between a 750dps dagger versus one with 1000dps won't make much difference for ww spec.

from my testing, ww contributes approx 30% of damage output.

Taking the example of 750 vs 1000dps, the 250dps is approximately 12.5% of the 30% output, i.e. 3.75% of damage difference only.

Hitting a higher Bp of 3.34 aps is 20% increase in tick rate. (from 10ticks to 12ticks).

nado ticks are based on both MH and OH, unless u make sure that your oh is the last weapon swung before casting sprint, after which spamming sprint without using bash/frenzy etc.

However, since all ww build uses whirlwind obviously, taking the average ticks will be more accurate.

My mh Aps is 2.55, n offhand is 3.34.
Hence the average ticks would be 10.285 [(8.57+12)/2]

This post was edited by infallibleleo on Jan 5 2013 12:51pm

crap

What's your point? I decided not to buy it because it has lower DPS than I wanted, if it was 850 dps or higher I would have bought it.

I use ww/nado barb as well, If I run into a situation where an enemy is raping me because I'm not getting enough Fury for some reason, which does happen... I'd like to do more damage with Bash.

I can't remember the price, but 3 asi, 110 str, and 45 crit dmg didn't seem worth it at the time.

Then again, switching from Lacuni with just vita and pickup radius, to Lacuni with 5.5% crit, 50 str 40 vita, 9 asi didn't seem worth 100m to me either...

Also, with WW and Sprint, watching the Nado's tick, then just releasing and holding WW again... you can easily tell if you're getting more ticks, or maybe your computer is not that great and you can't? That's what I do, gain Fury a lot better that way.

This post was edited by Borgschulze on Jan 5 2013 03:35pm

the way i see things might be different from u.

I tend to see from the point of effective damage. As long as using the dagger gives more ticks per seconds, it means more fury regeneration, which provides a sustainable wotb uptime, which translate to more damage output and survivability.

This dagger that i'm using has 1.65 aps, which means i only need 36% ias to hit the 3.34 aps breakpoint. At that breakpoint, i effectively have 20% more damage for the nado from my offhand.
Since nado comes from both mh n offhand, that will mean an 10% increase in damage overall.

Fury regeneration is always not a problem for me. I have 74% cc at wotb uptime, and 84% (at this % most of the time) coupled with killing spree.

My recommendation is that u must see what's your current aps and how much u need to invest to get to the next ias bp. If u currently have 2.5 & 2.88aps for your mh & oh respectively in wotb mode, i would suggest just sticking with it as it would take a lot more to hit to the next breakpoint.

FYI, breakpoint for nado/ww are
2.5aps --> 8.57ticks per second
2.88aps --> 10ticks per second
3.34aps --> 12 ticks per second.