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Jun 6 2012 10:38pm
Quote (Cloudfire @ Jun 6 2012 09:33pm)
I hate doing quads days :/  especially after a few weeks off it'd hurt for 5 days afterwards. shit sucks, yo.




i've been lifting with a mate for about a year now. added 7kg so far, and that's been with slack diet / slack schedule. Planning on going hulk-mode bulking in the upcoming holidays though >=D


ah well im fat so I was actaully burning weight while gaining muscle but I just didn't see nearly enough results from what I expected

considering my weight I was expecting to be able to gain muscle fast but was dissapointed :(
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Jun 7 2012 12:06am
Oh my god... I just got a workout ready all this jargon about weights, diets and all the quads or squats...

Oh please someone shoot me... (draggingmyasstobed)
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Jun 7 2012 03:08am
Okay... I am trying to make a Melee guide to fit both SC and HC... so I need your opinions based on what I have done so far.
Please try to be helpful.. I mainly need the % charge for toons... there ability %, other % ability or unlocked abilty %...
So help me as best you can from recolection from your experience from the time you have played... thank you in advance!



~@~ BASICS ~@~

"Can all toons be Melee or Tanker or Both?"
"Yes & No... 1st off, you need the right gear, 2nd'ly Alchemists are NEVER melee"
"Lastly, all toons use "Character Class Specific" Items which can affect their effectiveness"
"Use this link to verify toon stats / equipment: http://ladderslasher.d2jsp.org/index.php?g=2 "
"Use this link to verify weapon ratio stats: http://ladderslasher.d2jsp.org/index.php?g=3 "


Most Common Tank Classes:
Barbarian [] Fighter [] Rogue [] Samurai [] Paladin [] Headhunter
Remember how I said toons have "Character Class Specific" items? Well there is ONE thing that all
these classes have in common, they can ALL use Robe, Padded Robe, Leather & Scale Armor.
The Rogue & Headhunter can NOT use Chain Mail or Plate Male.
BEST Versatile Tank Armor = Scale (This armor has the best overall defense vs BOTH magical / physical damage)
BEST Physical Tank Armor = Plate (High end defense) / Chain (Low end defense)
Not going to go into simantics about Robe vs Padded Robe vs Leather, as these are more for BEST magical defense properties

Secondary Tanker Class = Guardian:
This toon only uses Chain & Plate, not just that, they are also restricted to using Healing charm types only, BUT, they
have the BEST stat placement for Int/Vita to create Tank/Healer build... Personally I like melee/healer, but, I am nuts :)


Pure Melee Build:
Weapon
= Best Enhanced Effect
Armor
= Highest Stat to the Highest Weapon Ratio Stat... example: Sword Ratio Strength 75 / Dexterity 25
Main Charm Slot
= Highest Stat to the Highest Weapon Ratio Stat... example: Sword Ratio Strength 75 / Dexterity 25
ACC Charm Slot
= Best Enhanced Effect Heal (OPTIONAL, but comes in handy at times if solo'ing)
Stats Softcore
= Vitality 60 MINIMUM Rest goes into the Highest Weapon Ratio Stat... example: Sword Ratio Strength 75 / Dexterity 25
Stats Hardcore
= Vitality 75 MINIMUM Rest goes into the Highest Weapon Ratio Stat... example: Sword Ratio Strength 75 / Dexterity 25


Tanker Melee Build:
Weapon
= Best Enhanced Effect
Armor
= Best Enhanced Effect
Main Charm Slot
= Highest Stat to the Highest Weapon Ratio Stat... example: Sword Ratio Strength 75 / Dexterity 25
ACC Charm Slot
= Best Enhanced Effect Heal (OPTIONAL, but comes in handy at times if solo'ing)
Stats Softcore
= Vitality 75 MINIMUM Rest goes into the Highest Weapon Ratio Stat... example: Sword Ratio Strength 75 / Dexterity 25
Stats Hardcore
= Vitality 95 MINIMUM Rest goes into the Highest Weapon Ratio Stat... example: Sword Ratio Strength 75 / Dexterity 25

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~@~ INTERMEDIATE & ABOVE~@~
"What is the best abilities I should use whether I am solo'ing or in a group?"
"The best way to identify the BEST abilities, is based on two scenarios"
"1: Group = 1-71 climb [5 ppl in group] / Solo = 1 to 4 Toon Group [] Based on Toon Used"


Most Common Pure Melee Abilities 1-71 climb:
Barbarian [] Fighter [] Rogue [] Samurai [] Paladin [] Monk [] Ninja [] Headhunter
Barb = 4 points Knockdown (58%) / 5 points Powerstrike (40%) / 3 points Retribution (48%) = Level 50 (146%) = middle / front
Fighter = 7 points Powerstrike (77%) / 5 points Knockdown (40%) = Level 55 (117%)
Rogue = 5 points Knockdown (40%) / 7 points Backastrophe (77%) = Level 55 (117%)
Samurai = 6 points Multistrike (51%) / 6 points Backastrophe (51%) = level 55 (101%)
Paladin = points Multistrike (%) / 6 points Revenge (72%) = Level 55 (144%) = middle / front
Monk = 4 points Crosstrike (58%) / 4 points DoubleStrike (58%) / 4 points Multistrike (36%) = level 55 (152%)
Ninja =
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Jun 7 2012 04:04am
lost my recent game in dota
we woulda won too but our nightstalker left and he was our semi-carry

we had 30 kills they had 15 but they had more of our towers
but evne though we were winning team fights once you lose someone they will always be able to eventaully out farm ya :( that is inless you have a hard carry which we did not and I don't count pl as a hard carry haha such a terrible carry
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Jun 7 2012 04:27am
Quote (Ensane @ Jun 7 2012 10:04pm)
lost my recent game in dota
we woulda won too but our nightstalker left and he was our semi-carry

we had 30 kills they had 15 but they had more of our towers
but evne though we were winning team fights once you lose someone they will always be able to eventaully out farm ya :( that is inless you have a hard carry which we did not and I don't count pl as a hard carry haha such a terrible carry


omfg.. wtf are U jabbering about? I don't give a rats ass about anyone in a carry situation... ffs... just carry the load yourself... simple dynamics that newbs forget.
and yes... I do not know where you are coming from... but it is just simple strategy in any fvck ass game...
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Jun 7 2012 05:16am
Quote (izParagonzi @ Jun 7 2012 06:27am)
omfg.. wtf are U jabbering about? I don't give a rats ass about anyone in a carry situation... ffs... just carry the load yourself... simple dynamics that newbs forget.
and yes... I do not know where you are coming from... but it is just simple strategy in any fvck ass game...


Not in a 5 person team game. Someone needs to carry, someone needs to tank, someone needs to support. If you go all carry or all tank or all support, you are bound to lose vs another well balanced team.

But I don't know what I am talking about either. :lol:
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Jun 7 2012 06:29am
Quote (jlhromeo @ Jun 7 2012 11:16pm)
Not in a 5 person team game. Someone needs to carry, someone needs to tank, someone needs to support. If you go all carry or all tank or all support, you are bound to lose vs another well balanced team.

But I don't know what I am talking about either. :lol:


Ummm... I guess I concur.. $hit... got to stop drinknig and sleep... :)

EDIT: nvm my original post... got the info... even though my eyes are playing up... :)

This post was edited by izParagonzi on Jun 7 2012 06:34am
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Jun 7 2012 10:30am
nice work on the guide rex!
When you are done with it lmk and i will post it up in our notebox for us.

someones been drinking ^_^
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Jun 7 2012 12:56pm
Quote (-Kenny @ Jun 6 2012 09:05pm)
After I used to do legs I was sore until Thursday.... (my leg day was Monday) I hate leg day!


Quote (Cloudfire @ Jun 6 2012 09:33pm)
I hate doing quads days :/  especially after a few weeks off it'd hurt for 5 days afterwards. shit sucks, yo.




i've been lifting with a mate for about a year now. added 7kg so far, and that's been with slack diet / slack schedule. Planning on going hulk-mode bulking in the upcoming holidays though >=D




so far im hating leg day to legs were so sore today




was also threatened to get suspended from school on the last day because all of us seniors decided to play a huge game of tag for the day
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Jun 7 2012 02:29pm
Quote (izParagonzi @ Jun 7 2012 07:29am)
Ummm... I guess I concur.. $hit... got to stop drinknig and sleep... :)

EDIT: nvm my original post... got the info... even though my eyes are playing up... :)



ha its okay yea jesse is right it's a highly dependent team game
having one weak link on your team can mean the lost of your team
it's frustrating and yet very fun
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