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Quote (SmokeyMcPot1990 @ 7 May 2012 21:17)
I.use over 1o mn every single climb from 55 to 71 and almost 1oap before glyphs how often do you use mn. Also ive tested this at 71 dueling shltty and oasis" mq ee robe I may be mistaken but I think it's 2oo+. so if this works as you say it should have some resistance. however i crit him for OVER 2k. :)

+ % Mind Numb Gives a % chance toignore the target's Intelligence with your magical attack. Lowered target intelligence will result in more magic damage dealt.
+ % Armor Pierce Gives a % chance toignore the target Defense for your attack. Lowered target defense will result in more damage dealt.

if the TARGET has no Intelligence how can it have magical DEF. the BASE DEF on an item is BASED on the vitality/INTELLIGENCE of the toon. they have the same wording but you think they are different?


thats why it has the base armor:

physical[or magical] armor = base*(1 + vita[or int]/100)(1 + EE/100)

dunno if its 100% accurate, but at least close...

i agree that u can do higher crits with mn, but its for sure not ralated to the monsters defense. it has to be related to its int... somehow
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thats why it has the base armor:

physical[or magical] armor = base*(1 + vita[or int]/100)(1 + EE/100)

dunno if its 100% accurate, but at least close...

i agree that u can do higher crits with mn, but its for sure not ralated to the monsters defense. it has to be related to its int... somehow


Ok maybe somewhere you lost the mechanics of this game. Let me help. Magical defense is DIRECTLY RELATED TO INTELLIGENCE. With that said if you have no intelligence your magical defense has nothing to boost it which in turn leaves you with o. So it is directly related to your defense through your intelligence.Think of sneaky for example he already had no intelligence so I already deal max damage and mind numb cannot trigger. Since he has no intelligience he has no magical defense on his armor. Or have you seen a sneaky tank casters it like permanant mind numb.

This post was edited by SmokeyMcPot1990 on May 8 2012 08:12am
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May 8 2012 08:32am
So sneaky has that much physical defense in retzrn, that it can reduce physical crit dmg?
No... It has special modifiers like % reduce phys dmg and take % enhanced magical dmg.

Plz, mate just test it urself before u tell me, that i dont understand this games mechanics. I wont discuss further until u tested it and u may BELIEVE what u want...
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Listen! I dont say, that mn isnt enhancing ur caster crits. It does!... But it is not related to lowered or nulled armor. That's the point!
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Cant edit...
Listen! I dont say, that mn isnt enhancing ur caster crits. It does!... But it is not related to lowered or nulled armor. That's the point!


lol lower int Results in lower armor are you slow or just pretending to not understand that concept. You also keep saying test it. I did with gerry using the robe he posted. That has ample def stats and int to boost still mn negated his int which in turn cripples his def allowing a more powerful attack.

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Quote (SmokeyMcPot1990 @ May 8 2012 10:12am)
Ok maybe somewhere you lost the mechanics of this game. Let me help. Magical defense is DIRECTLY RELATED TO INTELLIGENCE. With that said if you have no intelligence your magical defense has nothing to boost it which in turn leaves you with o. So it is directly related to your defense through your intelligence.Think of sneaky for example he already had no intelligence so I already deal max damage and mind numb cannot trigger. Since he has no intelligience he has no magical defense on his armor. Or have you seen a sneaky tank casters it like permanant mind numb.


I dont give a shit about this argument but you have to stop saying no intel = zero armor. Its like the third time you said it now or something. Even with zero intel a level 55 robe has 28-84

MN probably reduces intel to negative amounts and gives negative armor or something

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Quote (SmokeyMcPot1990 @ 8 May 2012 17:27)
lol lower int Results in lower armor are you slow or just pretending to not understand that concept. You also keep saying test it.  I did with gerry using the robe he posted. That has ample def stats and int to boost still mn negated his int which in turn cripples his def allowing a more powerful attack.


lean back, read my posts again and at least try to figure what i said. test it like i mentioned and not like u alrdy did as its impossible to figure what i seid with the way u tested it.

remember, its about crits ignoring defense, not dealing more dmg with mn due to reduced defense. just test it and u will see that i am right.

btw there is no reason to insult me. i just try to show u how the game works in this particular issue. ;)
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I dont give a shit about this argument but you have to stop saying no intel = zero armor. Its like the third time you said it now or something. Even with zero intel a level 55 robe has 28-84

MN probably reduces intel to negative amounts and gives negative armor or something


Quote (derDrops @ May 8 2012 12:59pm)
lean back, read my posts again and at least try to figure what i said. test it like i mentioned and not like u alrdy did as its impossible to figure what i seid with the way u tested it.

remember, its about crits ignoring defense, not dealing more dmg with mn due to reduced defense. just test it and u will see that i am right.

btw there is no reason to insult me. i just try to show u how the game works in this particular issue. ;)


Well I definately didnt insult you as that in my case always ends in a suspension I asked a question. As to the mn ill test it next time I climb with some who has nice ee robes using my tier 3 ice which if your correct should always hit for 0 even wheb mn triggers on a 2oo+ ee robe.
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