but its still just a timed glyph that expires.


Muting creates an item that lasts until you destroy said item.



NO. will make transmuting too overpowered.

This is NOT diablo 2 go play that if you wish to have something like that.




There is a guarantee that you will. Eventually you will mute a good item there is only so many times you can roll something bad before you get lucky and get a good mute. Being able to upgrade your essences will be stupid and make muting way to over powered.

The time it takes to mute is irrelevant as it's perks far outweigh the time spent compared to ANY other skill. You can CREATE ITEMS which is essential the most valued thing in this game and you want to make it 10x stronger if not more by being able to turn magical 55s into unique 55 essences then CONTINUE TO ROLL UNIQUE 55's? Do you see how your logic is flawed in thinking that it will not become over powered or abused. And before you say "itll take xx time to get magicals to uniques" The muters WILL do it as they have already invested YEARS and TENS OF THOUSANDS of FG to get where they are. It will make it unbalanced and the market will become worse.

This post was edited by SmokeyMcPot1990 on Jun 3 2013 11:07pm

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Do you guys really honestly enjoy using items that just have EE? Or just have the single stat of choice for your build, be it STR, DEX, or INT

How many years has it been since this game was available to play? In all that time, how many good Relic/Artifact/Unique items exist? And I dont mean an item that has 1 high stat and 11 other super low stats.
How many items exist with 5+ stats that are actually moderately high value relative to their tier cap? Less than 10? I dont actually know and I'd really like to. And also how many of these came from old muting system? How many came from drops/current mute system?

Why not allow muting, with all the thousands of hours of dedication to it, be a better source for items of multiple stat items. I agree with the people who say allow the essence to always match the item prefix. If it turns out to be overpowered it can just be nerfed again. Not to mention like people said before too, the essence rolling lower than the item muted is a huge problem for suffusencing.

allowing the essence to be the same properties as the item u mute would be great it also will bring more fg flow into the game since muters won't have to worry about it turning magical all of the time

That's a valid point but with the way the game is CURRENTLY you dont need more than just 1 stat on an item to make good runs. And almost ALL of the ones that are in existence that i know of that have multiple outrageous stats where forged in the old mute system. Something like that cant simply be nerfed out once the items exist they exist it will harm the overall market at this stage to add ANYTHING like this. There isnt even enough people to buy items we have now.

Few people can even use items with many great stats to their full potential because they dont have the other gear to accommodate such items. You really only need 1-2 good stats per item to make an amazing set.




So your saying youd pay more than 1fg if something like that was implemented? For say an arcane 40 ud pay 20fg each then because they are guaranteed to stay arcane?? This would just make muting more expensive. The reason they go so cheap now is because there is that chance of them rolling a magical out of it. If it was a set in stone arcane or w.e the item was id charge lots more for muter food i sell.



This post was edited by SmokeyMcPot1990 on Jun 4 2013 12:23am

have no idea what I would personally pay for them but u have to acknowledge it would help the mp more than what it has been.

For a short spurt it would but overall it would have a negative impact on the market. There would be better chances of muting good items because you'd have more chances per mute to get a good stat which would over time make even more good items than what muters already create and would devalue the already devalued market. For every item a muter creates that decreases the value of other items because it makes that many more of said item.

Your not looking at the long-term effects only the short term. It will not prosper in the end for anyone the muters included.

it sounds like to me u would step over a dollar to pick up a dime

id step on the dime and scoop the dollar and take both. Hbu? But this isnt about a single person its about the entire market and slashers as a group and in the end this will have negative effects on the group as a whole.

All I wanted from muting in the past was that we could transmute heavy weapons so that few that actualy put amazing effort into this skill to be able to make something special. But If I braimstorm a bit I would say that essence should dictate the prefix of an items. If you managed to break an item into a legendary essence then the item you will roll should be legendary. I mean you take an item that is legendary and you break it. Then you already have a chance for bad roll to happen becouse you can get a magical essence out of it so why would rolling the essence again to even turn things worse then they were?