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Jul 23 2022 10:39am
Quote (LoveBear @ 23 Jul 2022 18:38)
If they request a mediator which is super easy they wouldn't need to post an S/a, I know it takes time occasionally but the S/a team volunteers their time to assist everyone.


Request is a good Option but Timezones still a thing and sometimes a mediator isnt available.
If someone got an Idea how to improve things, it should be somethink to talk about. There is always a way to make it better
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Jul 23 2022 01:14pm
i Think a 2 step way might be usefull.
1.
jsut get everything together.
2.
get the mediator jsut the list of full accusations and let him give some pointers
of advice if something is missing.


but as it is now... where the mediator needs to look thrugh walls of accusations. which each has 4-6 sites and
might still not ready for a "review".... thats too time consuming.

just unproductive and could mb improve by leaps and bounds if u get like 1 or 2 more peeps helping out.
Just get those nice peeps some advantages and we are strifing to help the side

Btw my case was 100 safe 2/3 but i didnt got the fg so stop jsut saying "dont get scammed"
To go for a mediator for each Itemtrade ... for smal fg... that woud burn every "oersonal" on this side regardles of timezones.

cheers
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Jul 23 2022 01:58pm
Exactly. Where do you draw the line. 100fg? 1000fg?
Everyone would be exhausted to get a mediator for 'regular' trades.

My case was resolved after 1 week, so pretty fast considering how long some take.
BUT the accused (and locked) scammer had pleeeenty of time to spend and spread all of his fg before he got locked.
Furthermore was I not reimbursed for my loss (ofc no one does) and the crime to my understanding was well worth it.

The incentive to not scam is hardly there in its current state.
You won't score 5k that way but 500 are easy prey.
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Jul 23 2022 02:01pm
Quote (Kerathos @ Jul 23 2022 11:05am)
I get messages all few days why my scamm accusation didnt get any attention even with 100% evidence and i even tried to Pm Rank for rank (once a week)
to get answers how to improve this section.

In my personal and humble opinion, we have to less people "working" in that team or it coulg go a 2 step accusation,
1. get everything ready on proof and then change it to
2. a channel where only mediators have to cofirm the tag that should be given.

So the mediator doesnt need to look from side to side and lookout 20 sides if there is anywhere enough proof for a tag.

+ give them some rewards that we mb get mrepeople caring about this community or it will faster rebound into more scammer
(got scammed from someone who got scammed a week earlier then me for the same item....)

Change the way or u will get changed by unpopular opinions of harmed people...
(the guy who then jsut scammed me and tried to "buy" again from one of my shops)

sry for my bad english.


You've been here a month, you have no understanding of the system :lol:
They won't change it and they shouldn't, at least not any of the suggestions posted in the topic.
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Jul 23 2022 02:26pm
Quote (LoveBear @ Jul 23 2022 10:34am)
Use a mediator, it's free and 100% safe.

S/a team does a great job.


Agreed <3
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Jul 23 2022 02:29pm
Quote (LoveBear @ Jul 23 2022 12:38pm)
If they request a mediator which is super easy they wouldn't need to post an S/a, I know it takes time occasionally but the S/a team volunteers their time to assist everyone.


This :thumbsup:
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Jul 23 2022 02:30pm
Quote (Cersei @ 23 Jul 2022 22:01)
You've been here a month, you have no understanding of the system :lol:
They won't change it and they shouldn't, at least not any of the suggestions posted in the topic.


what proof does u bring ?
I would like to see a productive comment here =)
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Jul 23 2022 02:36pm
Quote (Kerathos @ Jul 23 2022 04:30pm)
what proof does u bring ?
I would like to see a productive comment here =)


Please explain to me:

1) exactly how the system currently works;
2) exactly what is the problem;
3) what is the solution you suggest.

Right now in your post all I see is someone whining they got scammed, they didn't use a mediator as a free service provided by d2jsp, and wanna change the world.
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Jul 23 2022 02:54pm
Quote (Kerathos @ Jul 24 2022 03:14am)
i Think a 2 step way might be usefull.
1.
jsut get everything together.
2.
get the mediator jsut the list of full accusations and let him give some pointers
of advice if something is missing.


but as it is now... where the mediator needs to look thrugh walls of accusations. which each has 4-6 sites and
might still not ready for a "review".... thats too time consuming.

just unproductive and could mb improve by leaps and bounds if u get like 1 or 2 more peeps helping out.
Just get those nice peeps some advantages and we are strifing to help the side

Btw my case was 100 safe 2/3 but i didnt got the fg so stop jsut saying "dont get scammed"
To go for a mediator for each Itemtrade ... for smal fg... that woud burn every "oersonal" on this side regardles of timezones.

cheers


I would think of the scammer accusation process to be similar to a police investigation,
first when you file a police report at the police station for theft or other crimes, you are interviewed by the officer or detective in-charge "The S/A helper" of the case then various details are taken and recorded for evidence against the accused.
Providing that you are cooperative with the investigation and sufficient evidence is submitted, an investigation will be launched to make sure the actual person who've commited the crime is arrested and we don't accidentally arrest someone who's innocent.

Just like a real life crime investigation, there are a multitude of factors that determine the time of investigation needed, such as unmasking and catching the right person, the severity of a case and the fact that there are always two sides to a story.
All this could take anywhere from days to years because some cases are less complicated and some are less complicated.

Hope you understand the process better now.

This post was edited by Lionhearted on Jul 23 2022 02:55pm
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