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May 22 2018 07:41pm
Quote (Crashnburn_819 @ May 22 2018 03:26pm)
MTX are what started the decline of Destiny. The entirety of D2 was setup to sell them. E.g. no random rolls on anything and tons of reskins, but all the unique armors being Eververse. A few free Eververse engrams per week to reel you in, but an ever increasing XP requirement to get there, so you'd be enticed to spend. $10 for an emote tells me they flat out don't give a fuck about anything as long as that MTX money rolls in. Call it pessimism but it says to me that the changes are only made to try and retain a playerbase that buys the MTX.

I said the same as you in D1, then had a problem when it was armors and ghosts popping up in RNG boxes for $. Nobody cared because they were having fun with the game. So I'd bet good money that we'll go down this road again with MTX decisions hurting the overall game.



D2 launched with a single armor set being associated with Eververse....
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May 22 2018 09:19pm
Quote (OtterJethro @ May 22 2018 09:41pm)
D2 launched with a single armor set being associated with Eververse....


A single set per class.

Dead Orbit was a reskin of EDZ. Crucible was a reskin of legendary engram set. Prestige was a reskin of normal raid. NM was a reskin of another legendary set. Even Iron Banner weapons were reskins.

How many sets have to just be reskins before the point is made? They made armor cosmetic and then reused models over and over while Eververse stayed unique.
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May 23 2018 08:05am
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A single set per class.

Dead Orbit was a reskin of EDZ. Crucible was a reskin of legendary engram set. Prestige was a reskin of normal raid. NM was a reskin of another legendary set. Even Iron Banner weapons were reskins.

How many sets have to just be reskins before the point is made? They made armor cosmetic and then reused models over and over while Eververse stayed unique.


Are these just cosmetics? Or do they improve your character? If you can't pay to increase your level/power I don't understand why you would be upset
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May 23 2018 08:19am
Quote (Fezbang @ May 23 2018 10:05am)
Are these just cosmetics? Or do they improve your character? If you can't pay to increase your level/power I don't understand why you would be upset


Because the gear available via the treadmill is all the same reskins, and the only unique gear is paywalled?
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May 23 2018 08:30am
how many expansion / dlc's am i behind at this point? might start playing again soon
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May 23 2018 08:33am
Quote (stuartg85 @ May 23 2018 10:30am)
how many expansion / dlc's am i behind at this point? might start playing again soon


Technically 2 but the first one, curse of osiris, was a big letdown and isn't required to play warmind if you wanted to skip it.
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Quote (Fezbang @ May 23 2018 10:05am)
Are these just cosmetics? Or do they improve your character? If you can't pay to increase your level/power I don't understand why you would be upset



They stripped the ability to improve and customize your character down to barebones so that armors are now cosmetic. So when the MTX sets present one of the only unique ones in game, it feels like it was done to boost those sales.
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May 23 2018 09:59am
Quote (stuartg85 @ May 23 2018 07:30am)
how many expansion / dlc's am i behind at this point? might start playing again soon


Just two. I skipped the previous one and jumped into the current with no issues. Took somewhere around 3-4 hours to hit the current soft cap.

Quote (Mangina @ May 23 2018 07:19am)
Because the gear available via the treadmill is all the same reskins, and the only unique gear is paywalled?


Ya, that's pretty fucking weak. I get why you guys are complaining now. I'd just see it as a way to single out people who have that shit and call them gay, but I've never cared all that much about cosmetic shit in any game. Only time I think I ever say something cosmetic that made me actually jealous was the flaming helmet for Bungie employees from Halo 3. That shit was dope as fuck.

This post was edited by jadeoshbogosh on May 23 2018 10:01am
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May 23 2018 11:45am
Quote (Crashnburn_819 @ May 22 2018 08:19pm)
A single set per class.

Dead Orbit was a reskin of EDZ. Crucible was a reskin of legendary engram set. Prestige was a reskin of normal raid. NM was a reskin of another legendary set. Even Iron Banner weapons were reskins.

How many sets have to just be reskins before the point is made? They made armor cosmetic and then reused models over and over while Eververse stayed unique.



Prestige raid gear didn’t exist prior to Taken King and was only a reskin then as well. I’m not a fan of Eververse either but people need to stop changing the narrative and resorting to hyperbole to complain about Eververse.
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Quote (Mangina @ May 23 2018 09:33am)
Technically 2 but the first one, curse of osiris, was a big letdown and isn't required to play warmind if you wanted to skip it.


is the first one just for story line shit or will i actually miss out on levels/weapons?
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