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Sep 22 2012 02:32pm
Eli is not even in the same categories as the elite group
Rodgers
Brady
Brees
PManning

I'll give you this though, Eli is the luckiest qb i seen.
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Sep 22 2012 02:35pm
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I'll give you this though, Eli is the luckiest qb i seen.


I dunno man, I've seen lots of QBs (especially Eli and Sanchez though) through balls that really should have been intercepted.
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Sep 22 2012 02:38pm
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Eli is not even in the same categories as the elite group
Rodgers
Brady
Brees
PManning

I'll give you this though, Eli is the luckiest qb i seen.


Spoken like a true hater.

And I hate that word hater but nothing else is more suitable.
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Sep 22 2012 02:39pm
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I don't get it though.

So this is a listing for this season thus far?

Rodgers
Brady
Brees
Peyton
Romo
Eli


How could you possible have Brees ahead of Eli or Romo? really Rodgers can't even be 1st if we're ranking based off 2 games, nor Brady.

I just think we should stop trying to rank them right now because we're running into way too many arguments and factors. One off-game is going to offset everything, it's pretty silly lol


I was just making an observation about Eli


No...

Talent. Potential. Performance. Execution.

I factored all four, based purely on talent Rodgers Brees and Brady are still leagues ahead of Eli. As far as potential and performance I'd give it to RG3, Rogers, Eli, Romo etc.

But when factoring in all four, you can't discount the poor performances thus far.
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Sep 22 2012 02:39pm
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Spoken like a true hater.

And I hate that word hater but nothing else is more suitable.


so you are saying Eli deserves to be in the same league as those guys? jesus holy shit
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Sep 22 2012 02:41pm
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so you are saying Eli deserves to be in the same league as those guys? jesus holy shit


After last year and this year why doesn't he?
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Sep 22 2012 02:42pm
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No...

Talent. Potential. Performance. Execution.

I factored all four, based purely on talent Rodgers Brees and Brady are still leagues ahead of Eli. As far as potential and performance I'd give it to RG3, Rogers, Eli, Romo etc.

But when factoring in all four, you can't discount the poor performances thus far.


Oh on talent yup, I wouldn't say leagues ahead, no but yes that's accurate.


Rodgers is hands down the best QB in the league if you factor in everything. I remember years ago I put Rodgers 2nd or 3rd and I was mocked.
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Sep 22 2012 02:46pm
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His accuracy and decision making were definitely an issue the 1st two games but I wouldn't worry too much. He's a good young QB, I just don't understand how everyone not named Calvin Johnson isn't wide open or beating their man. Calvin is literally being triple teamed regularly.

I just think Stafford is trying to rely on Calvin's greatness and forcing passes that he shouldn't simply because he's made those plays countless times regardless if he's not open. It's a maturation process.

If he looks for other receivers more often he'll see open targets. Just have to trust them.


you obviously havent watched much of them. it wasnt like all his ints were from trying to throw to clavin, i think one was. he has been INNACURATE AS FUCK, throwing behind guys instead of hitting them in stride. throwing low so they have to fall to the ground to have a chance, over throwing wide open receivers by 15 yards?!?! He spreads the ball well, i mean 3200 yds not CJ last year. I think he might be in his sophomore slump if you will 2nd full season, i hope not, I would rather them get hot at end of season like giants did last year, gel at the end= win.

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Sep 22 2012 02:51pm
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you obviously havent watched them. it wasnt like all his ints were from trying to throw to clavin, i think one was. he has been INNACURATE AS FUCK, throwing behind guys instead of hitting them in stride. throwing low so they have to fall to the ground  to have a chance, over throwing wide open receivers by 15 yards?!?! He spreads the ball well, i mean 3200 yds not CJ last year.


I know, I'm not talking about the INT's.

I'm talking about looking for other receivers more. Do you remember that one deep ball Calvin had in triple coverage(he caught it lol) but Stafford had a wide open receiver down the right sideline(wasn't a defender without 15 yards of him).

It's a good problem to have but this year it seems teams are making Calvin their primary, almost even only focus and I don't blame them. Stafford has t adjust to this though. All about maturation and trusting your receivers.

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Sep 22 2012 06:36pm
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I know, I'm not talking about the INT's.

I'm talking about looking for other receivers more. Do you remember that one deep ball Calvin had in triple coverage(he caught it lol) but Stafford had a wide open receiver down the right sideline(wasn't a defender without 15 yards of him).

It's a good problem to have but this year it seems teams are making Calvin their primary, almost even only focus and I don't blame them. Stafford has t adjust to this though. All about maturation and trusting your receivers.


At least he didn't follow in Eli's foot-steps and routinely lead the league in interceptions.
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