Everything costs a retarded amount in Australia.



Your machine had a problem. Dust that thing out I've never had one that came anywhere near that.

that was with dusting it out lol
Back when they made their cases out of plastic
Thing started to get brittle too, pieces just started to fall off. Ive never dropped it, the plastic just started to crack for no reason.

Think because it was dry, and the heat made it worse.
It was like 1 month after the 1 year warranty went out when I had these problems
And the refused to offer me any advice unless i gave them another 400$

It's simply my experience with every mac I've ever used (even their all in ones from 2005ish). Friends and family insist on buying macs, all of them have what I would call serious heat issues - I have an infrared temp monitor (or w/e those point the lazer to get the temp things are) and all have heat issues worse than even my notorious HP pavilion laptop.

I've seen macs discolour and crack their own shells from the heat they produce. While the problem isn't nearly as bad as it use to be, even the newest lineup has horribly inadiquet cooling for the components.

What's also important to note is that even if the heat doesn't bother you, it will cause your GPU and CPU to throttle back to avoid thermal shutdown. You won't know this is happening, except that your performance drops drastically. If you look ad MBP FPS benchmarks they bench well for 20-40 minuts, then the heat causes throttling and performance drops to around half.

I don't actually dislike Macs, but they have their issues and you need to know if they issues are going to be a problem for YOU and the way YOU use your laptop before buying one. Just like any other slim-line laptop running dedicated graphics and a core i5. If money wasn't a factor and

The last problem is the retina screen. it looks great and rocks for web browsing, but there is simply NO laptop on the market which can handle gaming at that ridiculous resolution, which means you either play off native res (looks awful, go nuts and try it on your computer if you like) or you will strain your computer to over-heat and throttle.



This is true, but apple is by far the worst. iTunes songs are generally $1.99 for Meh songs and $2.40 for Premium songs... I understand in the USA most songs are 99cents - and our dollar is, and has been equal or stronger than the USA since 2008

That's understandable. I know that a dedicated graphics slimline laptop is going to be hotter than most so when I do anything intensive on it (I run a lot of dev tools, VMs and some light gaming like TF2 and BFBC2) it runs on a laptop stand to let the bottom breathe.

Also, don't even get me started on how ass backwards music pricing is. That's an argument for a whole different thread. Fuck that industry forever.

I'm considering selling up my small rig and screens so I can be more free when I travel and work. I'd actually consider buying a MBP 15" retina but the screen is so glossy.. and fuck.. $240 for soldered 16gb ram and non removable battery???

So if anyone knows of any decent IPS screen notebooks I'd love to hear suggestions..



http://store.apple.com/au/browse/home/shopmac/family/macbookpro

It's practically the same price as the States.

Edit: it is the same price

This post was edited by lithfkn on May 24 2013 06:37am

id continue to buy a mac for a laptop because i've owned two and if anything goes wrong, their costumer service is great. i wouldn't pay more than their base model though, because then it gets expensive

what the hell have i started? i figured there would be some people arguing but not this many.

Once you mention Apple any idea of having a reasonable conversation goes right out the window. This thread is actually the tamest one I've seen in ages and has some decent discussion.

didnt read much but

ultrabook >

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