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Nov 8 2009 08:46pm
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I think you should have tried to stick with ubuntu.  Permission setting is mad easy and you can put it in the cron so it sets all permissions to new items whenever you want. 
I'm sure there is a generic ethernet driver for you that if modified a bit, would have worked.  I found that if you find the mac drivers, you can cross reference them and add half the mac stuff to make it work/better.


You wouldn't even need to run cron to set permissions, since you would have to run Samba to do the sharing with Windows boxes and that will set the correct permissions for each share automatically (once you set them).

I had a hell of a time getting some stuff configured on Ubuntu 9.04 (mostly my RAID controller, which needed a driver compiled..ick), but if I hadn't needed support for GUID partitions, I would have just stuck with Windows XP as the OS, since Vista and W7 took ages to install and didn't actually run very well.

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NO STOP PUSHING IT! IT WORKS LEAVE IT ALONE! Why would I change something that works to go back to something that doesn't? Just causes stress. My LAN drivers are not supported on Ubuntu, it's a common thing.


/signed. It works with Vista, and if all it's being used for is a sharing, you can use any OS. If he is familiar with Windows and it works with everything out of the box. There is no need to "switch to Linux." Sure Linux is more secure then Windows, but it is easier to use what you know then learn a completely different OS.
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Nov 8 2009 08:56pm
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You wouldn't even need to run cron to set permissions, since you would have to run Samba to do the sharing with Windows boxes and that will set the correct permissions for each share automatically (once you set them).

I had a hell of a time getting some stuff configured on Ubuntu 9.04 (mostly my RAID controller, which needed a driver compiled..ick), but if I hadn't needed support for GUID partitions, I would have just stuck with Windows XP as the OS, since Vista and W7 took ages to install and didn't actually run very well.



/signed. It works with Vista, and if all it's being used for is a sharing, you can use any OS. If he is familiar with Windows and it works with everything out of the box. There is no need to "switch to Linux." Sure Linux is more secure then Windows, but it is easier to use what you know then learn a completely different OS.


When I have permissions set in my samba share, and someone adds something to my drop-box folder, the owner on the new file is set to user:user and permission 700.
I usually have to recursively set owners and permission all the time so other people can use them again, so I have it set in cron to do it for me.

I don't use raid... no comment.

If he wants any kind of job in the future with computers, he's going to need to be familiar with linux. Since it's a simple server, I was thinking that would be a good starting point to learn something new.
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Nov 8 2009 09:36pm
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When I have permissions set in my samba share, and someone adds something to my drop-box folder, the owner on the new file is set to user:user and permission 700. 
I usually have to recursively set owners and permission all the time so other people can use them again, so I have it set in cron to do it for me.


Oh I see, that makes sense then, since it's another user uploading files. chown -R and chmod -R are handy.

As for learning linux. You don't really need a machine to do that, you can run VMware or VirtualBox and run it in a VM. Easier to deal with (plus snapshots for when you want to mess around with stuff)

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Oh I see, that makes sense then, since it's another user uploading files. chown -R and chmod -R are handy.

As for learning linux. You don't really need a machine to do that, you can run VMware or VirtualBox and run it in a VM. Easier to deal with (plus snapshots for when you want to mess around with stuff)


I tried the vbox or 2nd partition way, but it didn't work for me because I didn't know what to use it for at the time. I had to force myself to use it by making it the only os on my desktop/laptop.
Just my 2cents.

Also for some reason my network drives timed out all the time when I was using ms products. I could have been doing something wrong, but who cares linux > for me.
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Nov 8 2009 10:02pm
Gotcha. That is indeed one way to learn. Crash course an all that. :D
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Quote (MoonUnit @ Nov 8 2009 10:46pm)
You wouldn't even need to run cron to set permissions, since you would have to run Samba to do the sharing with Windows boxes and that will set the correct permissions for each share automatically (once you set them).

I had a hell of a time getting some stuff configured on Ubuntu 9.04 (mostly my RAID controller, which needed a driver compiled..ick), but if I hadn't needed support for GUID partitions, I would have just stuck with Windows XP as the OS, since Vista and W7 took ages to install and didn't actually run very well.



/signed. It works with Vista, and if all it's being used for is a sharing, you can use any OS. If he is familiar with Windows and it works with everything out of the box. There is no need to "switch to Linux." Sure Linux is more secure then Windows, but it is easier to use what you know then learn a completely different OS.


OpenSolaris + ZFS + RAID-Z is the answer to shitty RAID controllers. 99% of all sub $500 RAID controllers are shitty and should be avoided like the plague.

edit: good god on-board "fake raid" controllers are even worse. fuck you intel.

This post was edited by rockonkenshin on Nov 9 2009 08:12am
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Nov 9 2009 08:14am
Quote (MoonUnit @ Nov 8 2009 09:46pm)
You wouldn't even need to run cron to set permissions, since you would have to run Samba to do the sharing with Windows boxes and that will set the correct permissions for each share automatically (once you set them).

I had a hell of a time getting some stuff configured on Ubuntu 9.04 (mostly my RAID controller, which needed a driver compiled..ick), but if I hadn't needed support for GUID partitions, I would have just stuck with Windows XP as the OS, since Vista and W7 took ages to install and didn't actually run very well.

/signed. It works with Vista, and if all it's being used for is a sharing, you can use any OS. If he is familiar with Windows and it works with everything out of the box. There is no need to "switch to Linux." Sure Linux is more secure then Windows, but it is easier to use what you know then learn a completely different OS.


Linux lovers...

Quote (freightweight @ Nov 8 2009 09:56pm)
When I have permissions set in my samba share, and someone adds something to my drop-box folder, the owner on the new file is set to user:user and permission 700. 
I usually have to recursively set owners and permission all the time so other people can use them again, so I have it set in cron to do it for me. 

I don't use raid... no comment.

If he wants any kind of job in the future with computers, he's going to need to be familiar with linux.  Since it's a simple server, I was thinking that would be a good starting point to learn something new.


Linux lovers...

Quote (MoonUnit @ Nov 8 2009 10:36pm)
Oh I see, that makes sense then, since it's another user uploading files. chown -R and chmod -R are handy.

As for learning linux. You don't really need a machine to do that, you can run VMware or VirtualBox and run it in a VM. Easier to deal with (plus snapshots for when you want to mess around with stuff)


Linux lovers...

Quote (freightweight @ Nov 8 2009 10:46pm)
I tried the vbox or 2nd partition way, but it didn't work for me because I didn't know what to use it for at the time.  I had to force myself to use it by making it the only os on my desktop/laptop. 
Just my 2cents. 

Also for some reason my network drives timed out all the time when I was using ms products.  I could have been doing something wrong, but who cares linux > for me.


Linux lovers...

Quote (MoonUnit @ Nov 8 2009 11:02pm)
Gotcha. That is indeed one way to learn. Crash course an all that.  :D


Linux lovers...

Quote (rockonkenshin @ Nov 9 2009 09:10am)
OpenSolaris + ZFS + RAID-Z is the answer to shitty RAID controllers. 99% of all sub $500 RAID controllers are shitty and should be avoided like the plague.

edit: good god on-board "fake raid" controllers are even worse. fuck you intel.


Linux lovers...

Stop hijacking my topic! Enough about Linux!
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Nov 9 2009 08:21am
Quote (PENandPAPER @ Nov 9 2009 10:14am)
Stop hijacking my topic! Enough about Linux!


<3 u

edit: I was talking about OpenSolaris, which isn't Linux at all. Can I still talk about it? :D

This post was edited by rockonkenshin on Nov 9 2009 08:21am
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Nov 9 2009 08:25am
Quote (rockonkenshin @ Nov 9 2009 06:10am)
OpenSolaris + ZFS + RAID-Z is the answer to shitty RAID controllers. 99% of all sub $500 RAID controllers are shitty and should be avoided like the plague.

edit: good god on-board "fake raid" controllers are even worse. fuck you intel.


I was going to go with the "fake raid" on the mobo, but ended up going with a PCIe card: 200 bucks but it was either that or one that was 400 bucks. =/

Erm, to stay on topic... nice server Pen. :D

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Nov 9 2009 11:58pm
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I was going to go with the "fake raid" on the mobo, but ended up going with a PCIe card: 200 bucks but it was either that or one that was 400 bucks. =/

Erm, to stay on topic... nice server Pen. :D


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