well for one kendrick lamar has a better flow than any artist yet... so... if you are arguing biggie is better because of flow well then this is pointless because kendrick lamar has best flow of all artists to date. pac>biggie im pretty sure by now that u havent heard the majority of pacs songs anyway

Also, i just went looked at the sales, not of that year because i doubt i could find it, but of current total.

Thug Life: Volume 1 (with Thug Life) Released: September 26, 1994 Spot on US charts: 42 US Sales: Gold (500,000)
Me Against the World Released: March 14, 1995 Spot on US Charts: 1 US Sales 2× Platinum (2,000,000)
Ready to Die Released: September 13, 1994 Spot on US Charts 15 US Sales : 4x Platinum (4,300,000)

This means that biggie actually out sold 2 cds of tupac's in about a year, yes it was the thug life album but he was the name with it. Just like junior mafia i am sure outsold the outlawz because people still talk about junior mafia, sadly nobody talks about the outlawz who were all good rappers i my opinion.

Life After Death Released: March 25, 1997 Spot on US Charts: 1 US Sales: Diamond(10,000,000)
R U Still Down? (Remember Me) Released: November 25, 1997 Spot on US Charts: 2 US Sales: 4× Platinum(4,000,000)

Born Again Released: December 7, 1999 Spot on US Charts: 1 US Sales: 2× Platinum(2,000,000)
Still I Rise (with Outlawz) Released: December 14, 1999 Spot on US Charts: 6 US Sales: 2x Platinum(2,000,000)

These are the only cds that match up date wise, not sure what cds you were talkin about though. But you also have to figure that these aren't tupacs most popular albums, although there isn't a tupac song i don't like, these aren't his popular cds. But, even what is in my opinion the best rap cd ever, All Eyez On Me, went 9x Platinum (9,000,000) Biggie had Diamond (10,000,000) With Life After Death, which was his best CD.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tupac_Shakur_discography
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Notorious_B.I.G._discography
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_music_recording_certifications

LOL, ok now i know that you aren't even reading what im typing. Because i have said MULTIPLE times, i am a huge tupac fan there isn't a CD that i dont have and have listened to them all hundreds of times. There are probably very few songs by tupac that i dont have of have heard. I have cds of his music that is just acapella, i basically listen to the guy just talk. I am just as big of a tupac fan as you if not more. But you are distancing yourself from this. Technically speaking, tupac was not a great rapper. Biggie is the perfect technical rapper. As for kendrick lamar like i said i haven't listened to him, send me a link to a few of his songs that are good lyrically i'd like to hear them. And, i am not saying that biggie is better or my favorite, tupac is my favorite, what i am saying is that if you are just looking at the rapper, not the lyrics, if you are just going by sounds, it is biggie.

Perfect example, i started listening to tupac songs to find ones that have him flowing with a beat. Listen to 2 Of Amerikaz Most Wanted. Snoop Dogg raps with the beat the whole song. Tupac comes on and isn't with the beat at all. This is bizarre for me honestly i have never had to prove anything against tupac to me i have always been you. But you aren't even listening. You are acting like a little kid. Holding your hands over your ears yelling Tupac.

Ambitionz Az A Ridah is a song where he did flow with the beat. You also have to take into account, tupac recorded his lyrics then had producers make beats. How can you have good flow like that? Tupac didn't care how he sounded. He cared about getting his words out there.

by definition, where "rap" derives from, being poetry a long long time ago, tupac is the perfect definition of a perfect technical rapper.

anyways having all 2pacs cd's is almost 2/3 of his body of music. the most (the better) of it was basically hidden and you have to find it or ask around =]

anyways if were just talking appealing flow and wat sounds good to bump than kendrick lamar blows biggie straight out of the water 10/10 tracks AND freestyles.


anyways im going to post kendrick lamars "showoff" music, the stuff id show someone to get them to listen to him, if u like him he has many many classical and smooth songs and so many different styles and mixtapes already that you could look into.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zH77qt1aLYU
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9V7TMFbkP-M
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x3C3iA3m9M0
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9xN_EmhQ4hQ

do the last one first, but that one must fast forward to 4 minutes!

I own all of his cds, i have probably ever song that has been released. When i type in tupac on windows media player it says 102 hours, so you tell me if you think i am missing some. 1549 songs. You are arguing about kendrick lamar like it was tupac vs biggie vs kendrick lamar. It was tupac or biggie.I used eminem as a example but you are now comparing. You clearly aren't listening, just talking.

So i just listened to the first half of the first kendrick lamar sound you posted and i already like it, but he isn't with a beat at all?

perfect example of someone who only heard mainstream pac i barely even recognize these songs compared to the crazy underground pac shit i've found over the years

u ever heard -

ny 87
watch ya mouth
jealous got me strapped
thug luv
cant fade me
street life
me and my homies
million dollar spot
dusted n disgusted
throw your hands up
lets get it on(biggie and pac recorded this together)
runnin - THE REAL ONE THAT PAC AND BIGGIE RECORDED TOGETHER not the crap one on greatest hits
house of pain (biggie and pac recorded this together)
fright night
thug pound
late night
4 tha hustlas
militairy minds
got 2 survive
where ever u r
niggaz done changed
slippin into darkness
danger time
comin real again
west coast gangsta team
skank wit u
representin 4 ron g
PYT
we do this
letz fight
just watching
outlaw immortal
where will i be

ill be surprised if you have heard ONE of these.

but your point is flow makes biggie the best


when a guy like kendrick came up and is better than biggie and what "makes him best"

pac is the best of all because of who he is not some dumb sound, silly.

pac is greatest rapper of all time and kdot is DEFINATELY the most appealing and most lyrically talented rapper to date