I'm making this post to help traders make sure they are contacting the right buyer/seller due to the S/A made by against

Vuse posted on a305's thread to purchase 100 divine orbs
Vuse sent a305 the copied trade message by using the "Copy Whisper" function on the trade site - the original item was called Spirit Essence Crimson Jewel
a305 requested Vuse to send him a trade browser link/URL
Vuse sent him the actual URL (EXAMPLE -> https://www.pathofexile.com/trade/search/Standard/QGBg3jOfw) and also a message saying his ACCOUNT name is xyz
a305 saw 1 item listed on the URL and contacted that person as the only item that showed on the URL was a 100 divine, which matched Vuse's buy request order - the only person listed at that time did not have the same ACCOUNT name of xyz and the item was completely different (was a medium cluster jewel listed 1 month ago)
a305 messages them in-game and the seller is AFK for 10 minutes. Comes back 10 minutes later and they trade for the item
a305 doesn't receive fg for the trade and accuses Vuse of scamming him - Vuse has been afk from the d2jsp forum for close to an hour while this transaction happened (no communication for over an hour)
Vuse claims they never met or traded and that the person he traded isn't even him
a305 claims that it has to be him since it was the only listing that was showing at the time he opened the URL

It is unfortunate that this happened
However, it is up to a305 to double check that it is indeed right item and the same d2jsp user he is trading with
Many red flags were noticeable
1. The ACCOUNT name did not match the one that Vuse explicitly stated
2. The CHARACTER name did not match the one Vuse originally included in the copied message from the "Copy Whisper" function
3. The listing was made a month ago (most people, at least myself, list a new item to match the price of the trade order)
4. Vuse had been AFK from d2jsp forum for close to an hour at the time of trade
5. Vuse literally had 0fg in his possession at the time of trade
With all these red flags, especially the fact that the buyer has 0fg and has also been AFK for 1 hour, should be a clear sign that a. you should not go through with the trade b. you should at least double check the buyer is available and has funds

Here's a scenario
Seller is contacted by a buyer for a purchase order of 400 divine orbs
Here is the EXAMPLE URL again -> https://www.pathofexile.com/trade/search/Standard/QGBg3jOfw
Here is a screenshot of that URL

Now tell me, which one of these listings is the actual buyer?

Of course this is not an exact replication of what happened
Maybe there was only that 1 listing from the very beginning. Maybe there was more than 1 listing when the seller originally sent the URL
Regardless, receiving a URL doesn't 100% confirm that that is the same buyer you're trying to trade with
You should always either a. wait to receive payment first before completing the trade b. ask the buyer to confirm their character or account name

Anyways, hopes this helps

Edit:
Original trade thread -> https://forums.d2jsp.org/topic.php?t=100710260&f=107
S/A made by a305 -> https://forums.d2jsp.org/topic.php?t=100735606&f=250
Response to S/A made by me -> https://forums.d2jsp.org/topic.php?t=100738207&f=250
I'm involved in that I did a clean transaction with Vuse 1 hour before a305 accused him on scamming
Once a305 accused Vuse of scamming, I just replied to him saying I doubt this is true considering you're accusing Vuse when he has been afk for close to an hour
a305 said Vuse sent him a link and didn't need to come back since he wouldn't be paying for it anyways
Told a305 to take a screenshot of his local chat in case this is true
Responded to me asking if I've ever done a poe div-orb trade before
Told him yes - showed proof - directed him to S/A
Kept going off on trade thread instead of S/A which annoyed me so I got involved - he was also harassing me via PMs during the time so all the more reason for me lol
Most recent PM from a305


This post was edited by Phantaszm on May 3 2023 10:08am

guy u need my account to do this with urself?

"a305 messages them in-game and the seller is AFK for 10 minutes. Comes back 10 minutes later and they trade for the item"

how did the random seller know it was for fg?

This post was edited by ChocolateCoveredGummyBears on May 3 2023 11:10am

Please go read the threads that I've linked
Original trade thread -> https://forums.d2jsp.org/topic.php?t=100710260&f=107
S/A made by a305 -> https://forums.d2jsp.org/topic.php?t=100735606&f=250
Response to S/A made by me -> https://forums.d2jsp.org/topic.php?t=100738207&f=250

TLDR
The buyer (Vuse) and seller (a305) had no contact or exchange of PMs for the past hour before seller traded over 100 divines
Afaik, there was no actual exchange on messages in-game on PoE (all that was done was "Direct Whisper" and that's it) - not sure if you do PoE trades but we do not mention d2jsp/jsp/fg at all in-game as it can lead to your account being locked and/or banned
The "seller", not Vuse, the other guy who actually received the 100 divine orbs, is likely a random PoE player who literally just sold one of his items that was listed a month ago lol

aww gotcha.

yeah i've done trades. never linked the poe trade url tho. that's gotta suck he basically msg'd the wrong dude. good tips

This post was edited by ChocolateCoveredGummyBears on May 3 2023 11:33am

If you're going to make a trade link, the best way is to input your account name into the "seller account" trade filter, as well as the price.

https://imgur.com/TqrhxBP

This removes any chance of somebody buying the wrong item

This post was edited by ji_yo2 on May 3 2023 11:41am

Yes

It's likely that a305 ended up messaging the wrong dude

However, he's so in denial and accusing Vuse of being a scammer (has made a S/A), and now accusing me of also being a scammer or part of this scam lol



Yes. This does work, but always safer to actually get a confirmation from whoever you're trading with on d2jsp

Like I'm almost certain that Vuse didn't scam anyone and that a305 is falsely accusing someone because of this

You can see that the buyer (Vuse) sent a URL, as well as explicitly stating his ACCOUNT name "Chilleri" to prevent any confusion or mix-up
The seller (a305) opened the link like 1 hour after receiving the message, saw 1 listing by a different account (JustTheAdzudraael or something) and went forward with the trade assuming it's the same person lol

Now please tell me, what's more likely to be the actual truth?
That the buyer (Vuse) sent a trade link while stating his actual account name and still somehow proceeded to scam the seller (a305) by having an item listed a month ago for 100divs by a completely different account, and assumed that the seller (a305) wouldn't check to make sure it's the same account?
OR
That the seller (a305) didn't bother double checking despite the item being listed by a completely different account and ended up trading a complete random

TLDR can someone with average human IQ give me the shorts



This post was edited by yo_check_it on May 3 2023 12:34pm

So, in a nutshell, what he's saying is: "All items u have posted are very nice and old but the market ATM isn't ready for these. Best keep in locker. But still glws man."

Thank you