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#31
Jun 30 2022 05:39pm
Quote (zwiebl @ Jul 1 2022 01:15am)
i was hoping they would make botd archon viable (10 ias base). but looks like 2handers got destroyed.


keep up the good work!



Technically, two handed WW is much better now because you start off with hits at 4fpa and 9fpa for free. If you can learn to chain them you'll do more damage than prepatch. You can see in the video there isn't much difference between 7fpa (without faith) and 4fpa (with faith) clear speed if you do short WW chains. For that tactic though I'd take the heavy hitters like botd Thundermaul or War pike. I'm not a fan of stating dex on a barb so I'm partial to Thundermaul. 1.1ed is juicy, too.
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#32
Jun 30 2022 05:53pm
edeath ba / last wish ba been tested with varying levels of off weapon ias been tested?

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Jun 30 2022 11:43pm
Quote (babun1024 @ Jul 1 2022 01:39am)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ba8Toli_QZQ
Technically, two handed WW is much better now because you start off with hits at 4fpa and 9fpa for free. If you can learn to chain them you'll do more damage than prepatch. You can see in the video there isn't much difference between 7fpa (without faith) and 4fpa (with faith) clear speed if you do short WW chains. For that tactic though I'd take the heavy hitters like botd Thundermaul or War pike. I'm not a fan of stating dex on a barb so I'm partial to Thundermaul. 1.1ed is juicy, too.


This is the problem.
Blizzard knew about theese free hits at 4 and 8 frames.
First they removed them.
Now they put them on 4 and 9 which is a slow down.
And then they do their usual shit by "off wepon ias now works" and scales breakpoint out of base attacks etc. And in the end you slow them down.

In the end, they just nerf it. Cause they think a slow 2 handed wep attacking once every full moon is viable.

They shit on pvp, and continues to do so.
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#34
Jul 1 2022 01:19am
Quote (babun1024 @ Jul 1 2022 12:04am)
Only Grief BA + Beast BA when you do short WWs only. I had the fastest clearance with that combo.


Great topic, great research!

I'm addicted to this combo and love it on a barb.

But i'm not sure how much ias i need on gear to be @4fps.
The Griefz got 36 ias, beast fixxed 40.

Is highlord and 20ias gloves enough, or do i need 15 from jewel/arreats + 10ias belt?
Hard to notice difference.


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#35
Jul 1 2022 01:43am
Quote (Tjuwie @ Jul 1 2022 02:19am)
Great topic, great research!

I'm addicted to this combo and love it on a barb.

But i'm not sure how much ias i need on gear to be @4fps.
The Griefz got 36 ias, beast fixxed 40.

Is highlord and 20ias gloves enough, or do i need 15 from jewel/arreats + 10ias belt?
Hard to notice difference.


Just get 2x EBOTDZ for pvm. Then wear whatever amulet and rings you want.
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#36
Jul 1 2022 01:48am
Quote (Vileinfected @ Jul 1 2022 09:43am)
Just get 2x EBOTDZ for pvm. Then wear whatever amulet and rings you want.


ok. ty.

Also; who says its pvm?
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#37
Jul 1 2022 01:50am
Quote (Tjuwie @ Jul 1 2022 02:48am)
ok. ty.

Also; who says its pvm?


pvp = grief with beast, get a doom too, and also an oath, and a silence, as well as 2x botdz, hell get 2x grief while your at it. I have all that shit. If it's an axe, make it. Use it.

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Jul 1 2022 01:52am
Quote (Vileinfected @ Jul 1 2022 09:50am)
pvp = grief with beast, get a doom too, and also an oath, and a silence, as well as 2x botdz, hell get 2x grief while your at it. I have all that shit.


i know you have nice gear mate. I know you have a lot of barb knowledge. Thats why i think its such a shame to see you flaming on jsp... :-O
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#39
Jul 1 2022 01:54am
Quote (Tjuwie @ Jul 1 2022 02:52am)
i know you have nice gear mate. I know you have a lot of barb knowledge. Thats why i think its such a shame to see you flaming on jsp... :-O


Cuz barb used to be so much better :cry:
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#40
Jul 1 2022 02:46am
Quote (gel87 @ Jul 1 2022 07:43am)
This is the problem.
Blizzard knew about theese free hits at 4 and 8 frames.
First they removed them.
Now they put them on 4 and 9 which is a slow down.
And then they do their usual shit by "off wepon ias now works" and scales breakpoint out of base attacks etc. And in the end you slow them down.

In the end, they just nerf it. Cause they think a slow 2 handed wep attacking once every full moon is viable.

They shit on pvp, and continues to do so.


They respond to demands of crybabies on blizzard forums then make changes without understanding the bigger picture. I don't think they've got a good c/c++ coder either who understands legacy code.
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