Quote (babun1024 @ 5 Jul 2022 13:23)

Nope, you calculate the WW fpa for each weapons separately:
Beast BA: (40*120)/(120+40) +29(fana)-0= 59=>4fpa
Grief BA: (39*120)/(120+39) +29(fana) -0=58,4 =>4fpa

Final WW BP is (4fpa+4fpa)/2= 4fpa.
If one of them isn't 4fpa you won't reach 4fpa. Decimals are rounded up to the next integer. For example, 4.5 results in 5fpa.

Quote (babun1024 @ 5 Jul 2022 13:23)

Nope, you calculate the WW fpa for each weapons separately:
Beast BA: (40*120)/(120+40) +29(fana)-0= 59=>4fpa
Grief BA: (39*120)/(120+39) +29(fana) -0=58,4 =>4fpa

Final WW BP is (4fpa+4fpa)/2= 4fpa.
If one of them isn't 4fpa you won't reach 4fpa. Decimals are rounded up to the next integer. For example, 4.5 results in 5fpa.

Quote (Vileinfected @ Jul 5 2022 02:02pm)

So in order to have a barb fight a necro and not get screwed from the 50% slow you need highlords 20ias goves, and a 2 socket helm with 2x 15 ias jewels, or a 15 ias jewel in helm and nosferatu. Man this really helps the build with FCR caps. Where do we get FCR from now?
Edit: this is wrong.
It would be less, we would be at 29 and need 30 more ias, So actually just the helm (30 ias with 2x 15 ias jewels) should be sufficent. If you want to wear fcr in gloves/ammy/belt (2 of these) and a ring, you should be ok.
Edit #2 Decrep would be another 50% (those stack unless I am mistaken for 100% ias loss). In which case just forget about FCR.
Edit #3 add someone with a doom for another 50% loss (lol)

Quote (babun1024 @ Jul 5 2022 07:57am)

So there are some Koreans posting here links to a Korean forums telling us to calculate fpa for each weapon separately then average them and round up for the final result.
Their proposition:
One hand ends up with 4fpa, the other with 7 fpa then the final fpa would be (4+7)/2 = 5.5 +> rounded up = 6fpa
Our version was:
We average WSM and ias on both weapons to find out our final fpa value.

I constructed an extreme case with a chaos runic talon (-30) paired with a war fist (10) to test their proposition. There is no gear ias at all neither from gear nor from charms.

Calculation for their case:
runic talon with 35ias from chaos => 120*35/(120+35)+0 - (-30) = 57.09 => 4fpa
war fist=> 120*0/(120+0) +0 - 10 = -10 =>7fpa
Final WW frame according to them would be: (4+7)/2 = 5.5 =>6fpa for both claws so you'd expect around 4 hit checks per second

Our version:
(120*(35+0)/2)/(120+(35+0)/2) +0 - (-30+10)/2 = 25,27 => 5fpa for both claws so you'd expect exactly 5 hit checks per second

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pmrYFjgWUbg

I made an audio test but uploaded the video as well for others to see. You can go 0.25s slow in youtube and count for yourself. There are 4hits per second and not 5 as expected when you average the ias before converting to effective IAS. The Koreans are right. That's a good and bad change at the same time. Getting 5fpa is very easy then by pairing a faster and slower weapon or a weapon with lots of ias with a weapon with less ias. To get 4fpa though you need to hit 4fpa with both weapons. Calculating the effect of freeze, decrepify and slow is even more complicated for dual wield.

https://news.blizzard.com/en-us/diablo2/23814050/diablo-ii-resurrected-patch-2-4-3-now-live

The meaning of the line in patch notes means new gen blizzard coders just discard everything from 256bit and round up the result with a floating point to integer cast operation ((int)(value+0.5)) :lol:

Quote (Vileinfected @ 5 Jul 2022 14:02)

So in order to have a barb fight a necro and not get screwed from the 50% slow you need highlords 20ias goves, and a 2 socket helm with 2x 15 ias jewels, or a 15 ias jewel in helm and nosferatu. Man this really helps the build with FCR caps. Where do we get FCR from now?
Edit: this is wrong.
It would be less, we would be at 29 and need 30 more ias, So actually just the helm (30 ias with 2x 15 ias jewels) should be sufficent. If you want to wear fcr in gloves/ammy/belt (2 of these) and a ring, you should be ok.
Edit #2 Decrep would be another 50% (those stack unless I am mistaken for 100% ias loss). In which case just forget about FCR.
Edit #3 add someone with a doom for another 50% loss (lol)

Quote (babun1024 @ 5 Jul 2022 14:12)

Except slow is capped at 50% in PVP. I am about to calculate FPA for when you're slowed. You have to apply the effects to both weapons separately. Also interesting to know what happens when you get negative values.

Quote (od1e @ Jul 5 2022 10:50am)

ty :hail: