Nothing extra, you probably saw that video where someone frenzies then uses WW in P1
There is no need to do anything, you already hit 4fpa out of the box. Wearing highlords and loh makes you practically immune to holy freeze and decrepify so that's that.


Last Wish has never been a good weapon in any context or capacity. I don't know why people are so hung up on it. Averaging ias for dual wield opens up tons of options. For example, early ladder you could make an eth oath war spike with an edeath in an ettin axe and cruise through the game. There are more combos but they all are dual wield.

This post was edited by babun1024 on Jul 3 2022 02:36pm

Thanx ! good work man

Sorry to ask but English isnt My first language and math is hard for me (AM dumb)

To My understanding and looking at the new tables provided by ubeogesh

While dw each wep gets calculated with the wep and gear ias excluding the ofhand . And then the same with the offhand (excluding mainhand) to finally add both fpas divided by 2 rounding up ?

Ie : death BA and oath BA . Gear ias 55 . Not counting the oath IAs, death would be 8 IAs short from the last BP (4) . So the overall Dw fpa would be
5fpa death + 4 fpa oath =9 .. 9/2: 4.5 .. 5 total fpa for that particular set ?

No, you average the ias first: (50+0)/2 = 25ias
Then you have 55ias from gear so your rawIAS is 25+55 = 80
Converting to effective ias EIAS = 120*80/(120+80) = 48
WW BP = 48 + 0 - 0 = 48 > 41 so you achieve 4fpa.

Tyvm ☺️👌

Thanks for all your work and testing with this new patch.

So there are some Koreans posting here links to a Korean forums telling us to calculate fpa for each weapon separately then average them and round up for the final result.
Their proposition:
One hand ends up with 4fpa, the other with 7 fpa then the final fpa would be (4+7)/2 = 5.5 +> rounded up = 6fpa
Our version was:
We average WSM and ias on both weapons to find out our final fpa value.

I constructed an extreme case with a chaos runic talon (-30) paired with a war fist (10) to test their proposition. There is no gear ias at all neither from gear nor from charms.

Calculation for their case:
runic talon with 35ias from chaos => 120*35/(120+35)+0 - (-30) = 57.09 => 4fpa
war fist=> 120*0/(120+0) +0 - 10 = -10 =>7fpa
Final WW frame according to them would be: (4+7)/2 = 5.5 =>6fpa for both claws so you'd expect around 4 hit checks per second

Our version:
(120*(35+0)/2)/(120+(35+0)/2) +0 - (-30+10)/2 = 25,27 => 5fpa for both claws so you'd expect exactly 5 hit checks per second



I made an audio test but uploaded the video as well for others to see. You can go 0.25s slow in youtube and count for yourself. There are 4hits per second and not 5 as expected when you average the ias before converting to effective IAS. The Koreans are right. That's a good and bad change at the same time. Getting 5fpa is very easy then by pairing a faster and slower weapon or a weapon with lots of ias with a weapon with less ias. To get 4fpa though you need to hit 4fpa with both weapons. Calculating the effect of freeze, decrepify and slow is even more complicated for dual wield.

https://news.blizzard.com/en-us/diablo2/23814050/diablo-ii-resurrected-patch-2-4-3-now-live

The meaning of the line in patch notes means new gen blizzard coders just discard everything from 256bit and round up the result with a floating point to integer cast operation ((int)(value+0.5))

This post was edited by babun1024 on Jul 5 2022 05:08am

So if I understand this correctly:
Beast 40ias combined with 39 Grief = 40 averaged rounded up?
+ 29 ias fana + 20 highlords = 89 which is needed for pvp?

Nope, you calculate the WW fpa for each weapons separately:
Beast BA: (40*120)/(120+40) +29(fana)-0= 59=>4fpa
Grief BA: (39*120)/(120+39) +29(fana) -0=58,4 =>4fpa

Final WW BP is (4fpa+4fpa)/2= 4fpa.
If one of them isn't 4fpa you won't reach 4fpa. Decimals are rounded up to the next integer. For example, 4.5 results in 5fpa.

so if i use scissors suwayyah fools claw (0 ias in it) (0 wsm) and runic talons chaos (-30 wsm and 35 ias from chaos), how much additional ias do I need from gear to hit 4fpa?
Also how much additional ias for same scenario but suwayyah chaos? ty

This post was edited by kin198989 on Jul 5 2022 05:29am