Quote (babun1024 @ Jul 2 2022 12:20am)

I am taken hostage by my GF tonight but a good guy in blizzard forums (Ubeogesh) did extensive tests:
https://i.ibb.co/mGQDzhC/WW-table.png
https://us.forums.blizzard.com/en/d2r/t/update-whirlwind-breakpoints-for-all-single-wielding-1h-and-2h-weapons/136394

Have a look there.

Quote (gel87 @ Jul 2 2022 10:38pm)

Oki, so we ditch shield like we always did cause boring.
So we use grief ba + Beast ba

Level 9 fana = 29 eias
0 Wsm = 0 EIAS

120*40/(120+40) = 30
30 + 29 + 0 = 59 EIAS |30 + 29 - (0) = 59 EIAS


With 30ias grief it will average out between the weps if i understood correct?
(30+40)/2 = 35

With 30 ias grief ba one should then have:
56 EIAS. Which means one would handle 10% slow without missing a breakpoint.

However to counter golem or decrificity or holy freeze at 50% one would need:
- Total of 56 ias to counter 50% slow and will then hit 5fpa (each wep ofc, so 2,5 fpa)
- Total of 129 ias to counter 50% slow and stay on 4 fpa attack (each wwep ofc, so 2fpa)

You should not become chilled, cause u should have cnbf on ur gear. (chilled = 50%)
You should not duel enemies using both holy freeze and decreap, or golem + any other slow.
You should not duel people using extended slow above 10% in combi with holy freeze.
You should not duel people using decreap in either way.

So we are left at needing this to counter arach slow and 50% skill slow:
- 80 ias, 0wsm, 29 skill ias from beast to remain on 5fpa.

Did i understand it correct?

Quote (babun1024 @ Jul 2 2022 09:57pm)

I am testing and already big find:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IZnOjKbgE3s
Set youtube playback speed to 0.25 and go to 3rd second. WW does double hitcheck for 2 weapons at frame 4 now! The setup is 2x BA socketed with a Ral rune for fire damage to track as visiual indicator. You see two monsters hit as soon as I start a WW.

For now:
3.5fpa attack rate for 0 ias
3fpa attack rate for 2 ias

Quote (babun1024 @ Jul 2 2022 10:45pm)

Yes, correct. The only thing wrong in your equation is that you subtract WSM.

For WSM 0 weapons I got exactly the breakpoints in that table:
https://i.ibb.co/mGQDzhC/WW-table.png
0ias for

Quote (gel87 @ Jul 2 2022 04:51pm)

Cant w8 for assa test :D BOS, fast frames per direction with claws, -30wsm claws ^^

U can use the items i made for you on barb as well for test.
GC lvl 15 fana
GC lvl 9 fana
5 x scs 1 ias
1 x sc 5 ias
4 x scs 10 ias
1 x sc 50ias
3 x sc 100ias
1 x lc 7 all skills
3 x lc 5 all skills
1 x lc 7 shadow skills
1 x cap/hat 2000 defense, -20 damage, lvl 23 enchant charges
1 x sc 107frw, 107fbr, 107fhr, 107fcr, 205@ res, 63mdr, 63dr, 150% dr, 127ml, 127 ll, 235plr (NN die...)
1 x sc 491% ar, 1023 ar, 3026 ar pr lvl, 1 wirl, 63 teleport, +2037 defense, 205@, 127 cold/fire/light abs, 63mdr, 63 dr (NN die)
4 x shael trune
4 x 15ias jools
1 x suaywaya: 491% ar, 1023 ar, 3026 ar pr lvl, -100% requirments, 10fire dmg, 3 free socs
1 x suaywaya: 491% ar, 1023 ar, 3026 ar pr lvl, -100% requirments, 10light dmg, 3 free socs
1 x runic: 491% ar, 1023 ar, 3026 ar pr lvl, -100% requirments, 10fire dmg, 3 free socs
1 x runic: 491% ar, 1023 ar, 3026 ar pr lvl, -100% requirments, 10light dmg, 3 free socs

Should be easy to test with those^^

Quote (gel87 @ Jul 2 2022 10:54pm)

I get the same as table as well when not including slow.

blablabla - (-30wsm) = +30 EIAS
blablabla - (10wsm) = -10 EIAS

One must subtract wsm.
-- = +
-+ = -

Quote (VickIsSick07 @ Jul 2 2022 10:55pm)

Did they fix the horrid animation? Wwsin was the only reason I played d2 and when they butchered it I stopped playing. I might try again. No mb will still suck but if ww is buffed it might be manageable

Quote (babun1024 @ Jul 2 2022 11:11pm)

I am moving on to WWsin but will start with slow weapons first. I'll start with a chaos suwayyah + jah+zod suwayyah for the slowest claw pair.