https://youtu.be/ahYavC31Th0

This is a short video I made (like 5 minutes long) that showcases some of the hell that this war causes on the Ukrainian people. Men are being snatched up off the streets and forcefully conscripted against their will (imagine if women experienced this) and being sent into the frontlines to fight this war in essentially what is an endless meat grinder. I think I speak for many when I say we've lost many friends who are Ukrainian or Russian to this war and I don't want this crap to continue. The politics aren't as black and white as many believe, claiming "Russia bad, Putin evil, he attack cuz evil". I don't support either side in war, as I don't support war at all. I just want this crap to end. I want the little guy to stop fighting the battles of the big guys. Let the 2 fuckers fight it out in a UFC ring to the death Zelensky vs Putin and that be the end of it.

Do you want this war to end? How and with what results?

As an American we are only being presented with options 2,4, and 5.
So I chose option 5.

Nonsensical. I'm American as-well and option 1 and 3 are still options. What do you mean by this?

Ukraine and Europe aren't going along with options 1 & 3, and have vowed to instigate the conflict to the bitter end.
So your options are appeasement of Ukraine, and the EU.
Or say Not My Problem.

This post was edited by PapaPsych on Mar 8 2025 11:59pm

The only real guarantee of non-aggression for Europe is not NATO, the USA, or a perpetual war between Ukraine and Russia, but rather a sensible foreign policy towards its northern neighbor and its own army, rather than a pitiful imitation of 50,000 troops for 100,000,000 people.

/e diplomacy and mutual compromise

This post was edited by Norlander on Mar 9 2025 12:00am

Ah, I see. Now that makes much more sense, although I disagree.

Trump, whilst controversial, has some sense to his decisions. After he stopped U.S funding to Ukraine, Zelensky caved within days once he realized Europe isn't able to fully fund this crusade.

Oh you mean by Europe actually having a military instead of relying on daddy murica for everything security-wise, while tariffing the everliving shit out of them?
Meanwhile Europeans flexing free education, healthcare, good lives while the average joe in america eats ramens with crackers + grilled cheese and tomato soup to just barely get by.

If the U.S.A held a press conference tomorrow announcing it's complete withdraw of NATO and refusal to defend any other nation but itself, all of Europe would likely be conquered within a year.

Zelensky is a comedian, and a drug addict, by far him not being aware of that before he went to the white house is the most compelling evidence of a drug addled mind.
He was probably cranky and obstinate from not having his drugs since he got off the airplane.

This War in Ukraine is the pet project of the Biden administration.
Diplomacy should of been the first resort in 2021 when Russia said they would invade if the security agreement for Ukraine was to be in Nato.
For almost year Russian diplomats had been delivering this message to the Biden Administration, as well as Germany and France.
They all told Russia to pound sand up its ass, then Biden came out in late 2021 saying that he was "Fast Tracking Ukraine into NATO"
Then Russia began cobbling together a poorly suited invasion force.

This post was edited by PapaPsych on Mar 9 2025 12:07am

His plane had a refueling stop in Colombia (I'm not joking), so I think Zelenskyy was in peak form.

This post was edited by Norlander on Mar 9 2025 12:10am

Maybe its time for them to make some sacrifices then, Europe, Canada, all these other countries Tariff the shit out of the USA.
Then they get offended when reciprocal tariffs are announced.
Were already subsidizing Europeans Healthcare and Defense, both of those need to end.