i dont see the relation with the topic subject, now if you want try ot harder list me all well know scientists or whatever nobels in the history from Canada and do a comparison with france.

waiting your list. regards

the topic subject is schools, isn't it?
and the pisa tests measure how the respective school systems compare
how school works now is the issue and how it serves the nation - not how many achievers were there in the past

This post was edited by brmv on Sep 17 2014 04:35am

no you dont get it, subject isnt "Schools", is "School Mandatory?"

the thread derails into some retarded comparison using tools like PISA that i wont discuss.
or why not some ppl farting out school should not be mandatory and "free" or whatever

this forum section is piss off.

Yes, school is huge lost of time if you only consider education efficiency, but i still prefer send my kids to school to build social life.

I have several advises to slow down education on my 5 years old kid because he will be bored at school and maybe eventually drop out if he have too much knowledge, this is what happened to me, i was strong in science but lost interest because things were going too slow at school.

The problem when things are too easy its that you don't learn to work hard, school fail adapting to the specific level of each student in a specific discipline.

This post was edited by 2sexy4u on Sep 17 2014 07:29am

no, this is more of a reason to speed up his learning, not slow it down. School shouldn't always go so slowly for people that can understand things at faster rates.

i agree but where i live the public school politic is "levelling down" (unsure if the translation is correct there)

they call it a part of the "social contract" and its one of the negative draw back of left politic, even if i stand on that side for most issues

but on a positive way we probably have more mental and physical handicapped person that can work than in other countries, working is a important privilege to feel useful in society

This post was edited by 2sexy4u on Sep 21 2014 06:27pm

on a slightly related note i'd say children should be forced to learn and play chess from a young age

it has links to mental number crunching capabilities

This post was edited by duffman316 on Sep 21 2014 06:36pm

i don't if it should be forced but i confirm that chess his huge to develop so many different skills in just one game, being myself a chess teacher in the past. I am sure it would be at least as useful than maths as mandatory school discipline.

I heard that it was mandatory in Russia so i assume thats why you bring this, Russians probably have a edge on learning skills and it may have lot to do with chess.

On the other side many of my chess players friends found difficult to develop social life, some of then ended up earning there life in poker like i did for 10 years of my life.

I would vote chess as mandatory discipline just like maths for sure, don't forget that its a game witch help a lot to get child's attention and interest

This post was edited by 2sexy4u on Sep 21 2014 06:51pm

Anything that computers can do better than us should not be mandatory ...