thats why i dont believe in free will, even tho i can site other things along with it.

That didn't explain anything...

cuz of my christian beliefs doofus! duhhhh

no.

You have the mental capacity of a rock. :/

I see it merely as God already knows what will occur, and this includes what you shall choose to do at some future point, and that just because God knows what it is you will choose doesn't change the fact that you are indeed still choosing.

This post was edited by Handcuffs on Jul 23 2010 10:10am

ur wrong, and even tho i got from those, i still can site many different things with science, logic, etc

I tend to disagree that every action has a reason. It seems every action has a reaction and thus we tend to consider the ramifications of these reactions as though they were some greater "reason" overall.



If God knows what will occur then you do not have the ability to choose otherwise.

Let's say that he knows I'll choose soup A over soup B. I never had a chance to choose soup B because it was already established I'd choose A. If we look at the exact moment I chose, if free will existed I could choose soup B, thus proving God wrong, however one of these two (God's foreknowledge or my free will) must be non-existent.

Also, I am curious why Christians think God would judge people if destiny exists. We already have all of our actions laid out before us before we've even lived our lives, so what is the point of judgment? God is simply judging his own design.

EDIT - The last sentence wasn't directly uniquely at you, I'm just throwing it out there.

This post was edited by Kamahl16 on Jul 23 2010 02:53pm