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Nov 12 2023 01:14am
Quote (SwamiVivekananda @ Nov 11 2023 07:23pm)
I totally agree with everything you just said and I very much feel the same way but I'm not going to judge anyone but myself. Jesus Christ would be a compliment/supplement to your own spiritual growth even if you just studied his teaching at face value. Can the same be said about "science/math/etc" not as much(in my experience). Gives you "understanding" and "intelligence" but lacks "compassion" and "devotion". Yet an Atheist like yourself is still compassionate and devoted to things it's just interpreted differently. You are right it's not some "omnipotent superdude" it's all you(god) and it's every part of "God" the good and the bad things. Can't have one without the other.

There's two different types of people in Eastern faith. The ones who see God everywhere in all things everywhere at all times and the ones who don't see God at all and see no evidence to the contrary.

Both are "of" God none the less. Hindus see God as the "strata" on which all things exist. The "fabric" of space/time/causation. The vibration and frequency that holds and sustains all existence together perpetually.

So no I don't believe a singular patriarchal God flying on a cloud controls the world/existence. Yet some get great comfort in that. Not going to belittle them for that if they are a good person of deed/merit. The average atheist as you claim to be is more religious then most "religious" people are. Just walking a different path to end up at the same point.


If you think I am religious, then let me ask you: Whats your definition of this word?
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Nov 12 2023 01:15am
Quote (El1te @ Nov 11 2023 09:14pm)
I don't, but God does, and subsequently the quality of your own life suffers as you commit greater sin


Its alright dude, I can hande it
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Nov 12 2023 01:17am
Quote (TiStuff @ Nov 11 2023 10:32pm)
you dont know what fear means in scripture. most likely you have no scripture comprehension but i think we have already determined that?



ah? admitting to sin.........




nobody believes in pink flying elephants. only a dumb azz 'atheist would consider that a clever argument

agree

that comment means its you thats stupid.


Sin in the biblical sense? Hell yeah of course I admit to that.

If you dont get my pink elephant comparison in response to your idiotic question then you are dumber than I thought.
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Nov 12 2023 01:23am
Quote (Modulok2405 @ Nov 11 2023 11:14pm)
If you think I am religious, then let me ask you: Whats your definition of this word?


having faith based beliefs
you will understand when you understand what faith really means ......if you want to understand

also include the broader meaning of religion
heres one to consider
Religion often involves cultural beliefs, worldviews, texts, prophecies, revelations, and morals that have spiritual meaning to members of the particular faith, and it can encompass a range of practices, including sermons, rituals, prayer, meditation, holy places, symbols, trances, and feasts.Nov 14, 2022
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Nov 12 2023 01:24am
Quote (Modulok2405 @ Nov 12 2023 12:17am)
Sin in the biblical sense? Hell yeah of course I admit to that.

If you dont get my pink elephant comparison in response to your idiotic question then you are dumber than I thought.


you are trying to talk to someone who can not think for themselves.

you can just google what would be a christian response to this and he will answer almost verbatim.
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Nov 12 2023 02:16am
Quote (TiStuff @ Nov 12 2023 08:23am)
having faith based beliefs
you will understand when you understand what faith really means ......if you want to understand

also include the broader meaning of religion
heres one to consider
Religion often involves cultural beliefs, worldviews, texts, prophecies, revelations, and morals that have spiritual meaning to members of the particular faith, and it can encompass a range of practices, including sermons, rituals, prayer, meditation, holy places, symbols, trances, and feasts.Nov 14, 2022


Didnt ask you
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Quote (Modulok2405 @ Nov 12 2023 12:16am)
Didnt ask you


'atheists not to happy when they learn they a religious nutter
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Nov 12 2023 02:27am
Quote (TiStuff @ Nov 12 2023 09:23am)
'atheists not to happy when they learn they a religious nutter


As if you didnt tell me your opinion at least twenty times before this response. I dont care right now, believe it or not.

If I wanna talk to you, I talk to you. This time I talked to the other guy.
I dont know what his opinion on the subject is and I am interested in it.
Thats why I asked HIM.

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Nov 12 2023 10:31am
Quote (Modulok2405 @ 12 Nov 2023 01:14)
If you think I am religious, then let me ask you: Whats your definition of this word?


First and foremost I don't ascribe to the Latin definition of religion known as religare "that which binds".

Each soul is potentially divine. The goal is to manifest this Divinity within by controlling nature, external and internal. Do this either by work, worship, or psychic control or philosophy—by one, or more, or all of these—and be free. This is the whole of religion. Doctrines, or dogmas, or rituals, or books, or temples, or forms, are but secondary details.

Though there is nothing that has brought to man more blessings than religion, yet at the same time, there is nothing that has brought more horror than religion. Nothing has made more for peace and love than religion; nothing has engendered fiercer hatred than religion. Nothing has made the brotherhood of man more tangible than religion; nothing has bred more bitter enmity between man and man than religion. Nothing has built more charitable institutions, more hospitals for men, and even for animals, than religion; nothing has deluged the world with more blood than religion.

Vivekananda’s religion, which is essentially a rereading of Vedanta, is not based on any text, personality, dogma, or doctrine. It does not even stress a rigid set of practices. It has no definite pattern, symbology, mythology, or ritual. The centre of this religion is the living being and its reason. Equipped with such reason, the living being is asked to embark upon the quest to find the truth, the truth at all levels. This is not against science but only true to the spirit of scientific enquiry.
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Nov 12 2023 10:59am
Quote (SwamiVivekananda @ Nov 12 2023 05:31pm)
First and foremost I don't ascribe to the Latin definition of religion known as religare "that which binds".

Each soul is potentially divine. The goal is to manifest this Divinity within by controlling nature, external and internal. Do this either by work, worship, or psychic control or philosophy—by one, or more, or all of these—and be free. This is the whole of religion. Doctrines, or dogmas, or rituals, or books, or temples, or forms, are but secondary details.

Though there is nothing that has brought to man more blessings than religion, yet at the same time, there is nothing that has brought more horror than religion. Nothing has made more for peace and love than religion; nothing has engendered fiercer hatred than religion. Nothing has made the brotherhood of man more tangible than religion; nothing has bred more bitter enmity between man and man than religion. Nothing has built more charitable institutions, more hospitals for men, and even for animals, than religion; nothing has deluged the world with more blood than religion.

Vivekananda’s religion, which is essentially a rereading of Vedanta, is not based on any text, personality, dogma, or doctrine. It does not even stress a rigid set of practices. It has no definite pattern, symbology, mythology, or ritual. The centre of this religion is the living being and its reason. Equipped with such reason, the living being is asked to embark upon the quest to find the truth, the truth at all levels. This is not against science but only true to the spirit of scientific enquiry.


Your response begins with "every soul is potentially divine".

Thats an interesting start as I dont believe in neither soul nor divinity. If you use those words in your very first sentence, I would ask you to describe what those words mean and how you came to know that those exist. What is a Soul? Where is it? How do you know it exists? What is Divinity?
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