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I've liked what Trump appointed Ben Carson has been doing with HUD in regards to tiny houses and signaling to state and local governments of them being favorable, viable, and workable solutions to growing problems across the US. In my own area, ADU and smaller lot and building sizes are now allowed. In the Twin Cities there has been recent changes to allow tiny communities, although the proposals I've seen look similar to dorms. Prior, I recall most progressive liberal cities blocking them. Who would have thought a religious nut had more heart.

http://www.modularhomecoach.com/2020/01/carson-calls-for-deregulation-for.html?m=1

http://news.minneapolismn.gov/2019/11/22/city-council-approves-zoning-change-allow-new-type-innovative-affordable-housing/

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I've liked what Trump appointed Ben Carson has been doing with HUD in regards to tiny houses and signaling to state and local governments of them being favorable, viable, and workable solutions to growing problems across the US. In my own area, ADU and smaller lot and building sizes are now allowed. In the Twin Cities there has been recent changes to allow tiny communities, although the proposals I've seen look similar to dorms. Prior, I recall most progressive liberal cities blocking them. Who would have thought a religious nut had more heart.

http://www.modularhomecoach.com/2020/01/carson-calls-for-deregulation-for.html?m=1

http://news.minneapolismn.gov/2019/11/22/city-council-approves-zoning-change-allow-new-type-innovative-affordable-housing/


It was kind of racist for Trump to assume that Ben Carson knew about welfare or cared about poor people because he is black.

Don't you think that it is funny and telling that Trump's token black was appointed to HUD secretary just because of being black? You would think that since hes a medical doctor he'll be good as secretary of Health & Human Services.... The secretary of Health & Human Services is actually a business lobbiest for pharmaceutical companies....

So how's that draining the swamp working out? Lol.

Housing and urban development has done nothing in the past 4 years. It's probly one of the departments that the republicans wish to eliminate from the federal government along with education and that other one that governor Perry couldn't think of but feels strongly about.

Gentrification has really taken off in my city rather than urban development.... Which is just more colonialism.

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It was kind of racist for Trump to assume that Ben Carson knew about welfare or cared about poor people because he is black.

Don't you think that it is funny and telling that Trump's token black was appointed to HUD secretary just because of being black? You would think that since hes a medical doctor he'll be good as secretary of Health & Human Services.... The secretary of Health & Human Services is actually a business lobbiest for pharmaceutical companies....

So how's that draining the swamp working out? Lol.

Housing and urban development has done nothing in the past 4 years. It's probly one of the departments that the republicans wish to eliminate from the federal government along with education and that other one that governor Perry couldn't think of but feels strongly about.

Gentrification has really taken off in my city rather than urban development.... Which is just more colonialism.


Gentrification in reality is a pretty rare, and way over used to describe developing urban areas coming back to prosperity.. What city are you in? The ones I've lived in have benefited including the pre-existing residents. I'm okay with reduction in crime and pushing out gang violence, it's bad for all socio economic classes to let that shit manifest and guard it under the guise of anti gentrification.

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Gentrification in reality is a pretty rare, and way over used to describe developing urban areas coming back to prosperity.. What city are you in? The ones I've lived in have benefited including the pre-existing residents. I'm okay with reduction in crime and pushing out gang violence, it's bad for all socio economic classes to let that shit manifest and guard it under the guise of anti gentrification.


Cincinnati. A private firm is tasked with urban development, 3CDC. They consist of Kroger, P&G, Macy's, Great American Insurance, 5/3 Bank, and other large corporate bodies that call Cincinnati home. They even been able to move the welfare agencies out of Over the Rhine into the harder to reach West End.

And you see entire neighborhoods completely changed and poverty is becoming more isolated and concentrated. People evict them, make things nicer, move in, and call it progress or making the city better. Its economic imperialism at its heart though.

Community Development Corporations should have community representation in them.

I bet the same has played out in similar cities to Cincinnati....Portland, Boulder & Denver, Milwaukee...

Maybe it's different here because we are one of America's several black cities (Detroit, Cleveland, St. Louis....).

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Gentrification in reality is a pretty rare, and way over used to describe developing urban areas coming back to prosperity.. What city are you in? The ones I've lived in have benefited including the pre-existing residents. I'm okay with reduction in crime and pushing out gang violence, it's bad for all socio economic classes to let that shit manifest and guard it under the guise of anti gentrification.


My first response to this was "no it isn't lol"

What are you basing the claim of rarity on, and how are you defining "rare"?
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It was kind of racist for Trump to assume that Ben Carson knew about welfare or cared about poor people because he is black.

Don't you think that it is funny and telling that Trump's token black was appointed to HUD secretary just because of being black? You would think that since hes a medical doctor he'll be good as secretary of Health & Human Services.... The secretary of Health & Human Services is actually a business lobbiest for pharmaceutical companies....

So how's that draining the swamp working out? Lol.

Housing and urban development has done nothing in the past 4 years. It's probly one of the departments that the republicans wish to eliminate from the federal government along with education and that other one that governor Perry couldn't think of but feels strongly about.

Gentrification has really taken off in my city rather than urban development.... Which is just more colonialism.


It's impossible to take anyone who talks like this seriously.
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Feb 2 2020 12:20pm
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It's impossible to take anyone who talks like this seriously.


Says a huge fan of police brutality. I'm good.
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It was kind of racist for Trump to assume that Ben Carson knew about welfare or cared about poor people because he is black.

Carson did grow up fairly poor and and his family was on govt assistance for some time, so of course he had knowledge of it. besides which that’s what govt assistance is for, to help out the less fortunate especially children wnd single mothers when they need it.

you assumed it was due to race, because there are quite a few junior boomers like you who are stuck in the past. that was the wra where people like you stopped minorities like Ben Carson etc. from eating at the counter and going to school and riding on certain bus seats etc.

well then again you voted for the candidate who was mentored by someone who was in the kkk - Senator Robert Byrd (D) who also filibustered the civil rights act of 1964. so it’s not a surprise you take this despicable viewpoint
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My first response to this was "no it isn't lol"

What are you basing the claim of rarity on, and how are you defining "rare"?


Based on cause effect of low income population displacement directly from middle class or higher development or investment. I have to concede to Skinned s anecdotes those are pretty solid cases, and it's been worse at times in particular cities and years. Blanket gentrification statements are a bit much though, I hear it thrown around whenever a neighborhood is changing and someone feels entitled to their way of life there, and burdens the rest of the city to subsidize it. True gentrification is rare among the many claims made. We live in a pseudo free market capitalist society, prices changes, opportunities come and go. I hold the definition to a higher standard than markets fluctuating. Shit that qualified it is housing prices skyrocketing beyond national averages while the living situation and city services remain the same or decline for the same population.

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I'd add that zoning and Tiny House deregulation changes in cities helps combat 'gentrification' and homelessness. Something Carson is promoting.

This post was edited by RedFromWinter on Feb 2 2020 02:16pm
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Carson did grow up fairly poor and and his family was on govt assistance for some time, so of course he had knowledge of it. besides which that’s what govt assistance is for, to help out the less fortunate especially children wnd single mothers when they need it.

you assumed it was due to race, because there are quite a few junior boomers like you who are stuck in the past. that was the wra where people like you stopped minorities like Ben Carson etc. from eating at the counter and going to school and riding on certain bus seats etc.

well then again you voted for the candidate who was mentored by someone who was in the kkk - Senator Robert Byrd (D) who also filibustered the civil rights act of 1964. so it’s not a surprise you take this despicable viewpoint


So everybody who has been on welfare is qualified to run it?

So meritocratic. He is the excuse president lol.
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