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Jun 7 2013 05:28pm
It would make more sense to just join Wyoming instead of attempt to become a new state...
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Jun 7 2013 06:55pm
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Enron was 15 years ago. They are still having rolling blackouts to this day.


lol uh, where?
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Jun 7 2013 09:01pm
i cant support any new states, 50 is just too good a number, just flows so smooth!
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Jun 7 2013 09:51pm
No thanks, the gasbags should just pick up and move into Kansas or Nebraska. Then that way they won't need to whine about being in the minority any longer. A proposal to increase renewable energy standards? How horrible. This is what happens when the minority fails to recognize the changes in their state, and insist on nominating unelectable candidates for office, like getting onboard the Tom Tancredo for Governor trainwreck in 2010 and getting behind him already after he announced his candidacy for 2014.

The same thing happened to the Republican party in Virginia this year, and they're essentially punting the Lt. Gov position (and the control of the State Senate as well) because they held a convention and nominated a wingnut moron as their candidate because the whole "war on fetuses" crowd hasn't figured it out yet that Virginia's changing, and you can't just nominate wingnut Republicans any longer and expect to win statewide or federal races.

Though on the plus side of the new statehood idea, they could do it and call it "Wingtopia."

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Yet the left wants to make them a state?


D.C. really should be a state. It's unfair that it isn't seeing as how at the very least it has the population to warrant it, being larger than the population in two full states.

The only reason making it a state is problematic is because it's the seat of government.

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No thanks, the gasbags should just pick up and move into Kansas or Nebraska. Then that way they won't need to whine about being in the minority any longer. A proposal to increase renewable energy standards? How horrible. This is what happens when the minority fails to recognize the changes in their state, and insist on nominating unelectable candidates for office, like getting onboard the Tom Tancredo for Governor trainwreck in 2010 and getting behind him already after he announced his candidacy for 2014.

Though on the plus side of new statehood, they could call it "Wingtopia."


It's more than that, the urbanites are forcing taxes on them that only they have to pay, solely because they don't live in the city. That goes against everything our country stands for.
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Jun 7 2013 09:55pm
Quote (JayKwik @ Jun 7 2013 10:51pm)
D.C. really should be a state. It's unfair that it isn't seeing as how at the very least it has the population to warrant it, being larger than the population in two full states.

The only reason making it a state is problematic is because it's the seat of government.


I'd fully support giving them a voting representative in the House.

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Jun 7 2013 09:56pm
"north carolina wants"


this is who exactly....
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Jun 7 2013 10:04pm
Quote (simpleforce @ Jun 7 2013 10:56pm)
"north carolina wants"


this is who exactly....


I was unaware this thread was about North Carolina.
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Jun 7 2013 10:07pm
Quote (SwaziSpring @ Jun 7 2013 11:54pm)
It's more than that, the urbanites are forcing taxes on them that only they have to pay, solely because they don't live in the city. That goes against everything our country stands for.


I know that's the Koch-sponsored rallying cry but it lacks substance. First of all there are plenty of rural Representatives and Senators and if the measure was in actuality hostile to rural citizens then there simply wouldn't have been support for it. Even Hickenlooper was considering a veto but decided to let it ride because the rate cap wasn't compounded and the charges for new power essentially amounted to a whopping $2 more per month.

But again: the minority shouldn't have punted seats by nominating wingnuts to represent their interests. It's not like they were gerrymandered and they lost their influence by bad form politics. They chose, and they chose wrong, and now they're bitter and rather than getting behind the way that energy policy is improving in the state they're talking secession because the majority isn't governing the way the minority party thinks it should.
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Quote (JayKwik @ Jun 7 2013 11:07pm)
I know that's the Koch-sponsored rallying cry but it lacks substance. First of all there are plenty of rural Representatives and Senators and if the measure was in actuality hostile to rural citizens then there simply wouldn't have been support for it. Even Hickenlooper was considering a veto but decided to let it ride because the rate cap wasn't compounded and the charges for new power essentially amounted to a whopping $2 more per month.

But again: the minority shouldn't have punted seats by nominating wingnuts to represent their interests. It's not like they were gerrymandered and they lost their influence by bad form politics. They chose, and they chose wrong, and now they're bitter and rather than getting behind the way that energy policy is improving in the state they're talking secession because the majority isn't governing the way the minority party thinks it should.


Why not propose that everyone has to pay the fee then? It would no doubt be even less than $2 more each month, if you had more people paying for it, no?

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