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Jan 26 2020 10:33pm
Quote (duffman316 @ Jan 26 2020 06:56pm)
how well are the people who can't afford the costs gonna survive i wonder


Lets just force the doctors to work for free and pay for surgical equipment out of pocket then.
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Jan 26 2020 10:58pm
Quote (EndlessSky @ Jan 26 2020 10:33pm)
Lets just force the doctors to work for free and pay for surgical equipment out of pocket then.


This is more or less what already happens. When somebody can't afford care it gets either given for free by the hospital system or written off on taxes or both.

It would be better to just bring this shit above board and eat the cost as a society so the individuals and hospitals affected don't have their financials ruined in addition to society eating the cost.

It's funny that literally every criticism I've ever seen of "socialized medicine" applies more to our own system. Wait times? We have literal infinite wait times for the uninsured. Rationing of care? Again, we ration care based on insurance. Healthcare outcomes? We're more or less in line with everybody else, and often below.

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Jan 26 2020 11:13pm
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Lets just force the doctors to work for free and pay for surgical equipment out of pocket then.


Funny, australian doctors make the same as american ones, and if you are willing to specialise and move to regional area's a lot more.
We recently had a job opening in a local small town for a pediatrician at 1.8 million dollars for three years.
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Jan 26 2020 11:26pm
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Funny, australian doctors make the same as american ones, and if you are willing to specialise and move to regional area's a lot more.
We recently had a job opening in a local small town for a pediatrician at 1.8 million dollars for three years.


That's 400k USD per year. Not too shabby.
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That's 400k USD per year. Not too shabby.


Thats way more than american pediatricians make. Theyre one of the lowest paid medical specialties here.
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Jan 27 2020 07:29am
Quote (EndlessSky @ Jan 26 2020 11:33pm)
Lets just force the doctors to work for free and pay for surgical equipment out of pocket then.


Rand paul shares this libertarian delusion of yours on universal healthcare
That didn't stop him from running to canada to get medical care at a government subsidized hospital though
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Quote (duffman316 @ Jan 27 2020 07:29am)
Rand paul shares this libertarian delusion of yours on universal healthcare
That didn't stop him from running to canada to get medical care at a government subsidized hospital though


So a deranged liberal assaulted rand paul and he went to the clinic that specializes in the injury he got, which is one of the seven privately run hospitals in Ontario grandfathered in when new private hospitals were banned, and there he paid out of pocket with no canadian subsidization while filing civil suit against his attacker for compensatory damages.

dang, I like where this convo is going, do I finally get a chance to drop all those Gabrielle Giffords jokes I have saved up over the years? She sounds a lot like AOC now
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Jan 27 2020 09:00am
Quote (EndlessSky @ Jan 26 2020 11:28am)
Because you pay for it in taxes instead duh.



You have the mannerisms of a nine year old.

Can you go back to the fortnite forum.


Ah so ridiculous name calling is grounds for being relegated to playing fornite.
Please forward to tRump himself because this is EXACTLY what he does.
Sorry you are cult driven and can recognize it in everyone but him.
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So a deranged liberal assaulted rand paul and he went to the clinic that specializes in the injury he got, which is one of the seven privately run hospitals in Ontario grandfathered in when new private hospitals were banned, and there he paid out of pocket with no canadian subsidization while filing civil suit against his attacker for compensatory damages.

dang, I like where this convo is going, do I finally get a chance to drop all those Gabrielle Giffords jokes I have saved up over the years? She sounds a lot like AOC now


Paying out of pocket as a foreigner at a hospital that is subsidized largely by tax payer funds doesn't make the hospital any less reliant on tax payer funds. I can go there and get treatment without paying a dime out of pocket because i already pay into the provincial insurance program that hospital charges to for most of it's patients.
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Paying out of pocket as a foreigner at a hospital that is subsidized largely by tax payer funds doesn't make the hospital any less reliant on tax payer funds. I can go there and get treatment without paying a dime out of pocket because i already pay into the provincial insurance program that hospital charges to for most of it's patients.


Quote (Goomshill @ Jan 27 2020 09:45am)
So a deranged liberal assaulted rand paul and he went to the clinic that specializes in the injury he got, which is one of the seven privately run hospitals in Ontario grandfathered in when new private hospitals were banned, and there he paid out of pocket with no canadian subsidization while filing civil suit against his attacker for compensatory damages.

dang, I like where this convo is going, do I finally get a chance to drop all those Gabrielle Giffords jokes I have saved up over the years? She sounds a lot like AOC now


Duff always lies to manufacture a bogus "new age" free love propaganda. This isnt new in the least.
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