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Jul 17 2012 06:07pm
Quote (thundercock @ Jul 17 2012 05:47pm)
What do you have against them?  It opened my eyes to a lot of stuff in nature.  During my years in Scouting, I managed to rack up over 500 backpacking miles.


Just have a bad feeling about them.
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Jul 17 2012 06:15pm
Quote (OtterJethro @ Jul 17 2012 03:44pm)
Homosexuals are not "excluded" from going to church.


Oh so JUST the BSA. Got it.
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Jul 17 2012 06:16pm
Quote (bitg_pj @ Jul 17 2012 05:54pm)
now you're just kidding yourself if you think an open homosexual is welcomed in most churches


Most churches will allow them to attend. Doesn't mean they will stop callin it a sin. I have never heard of a church makin some leave or not permitting them to attend solely because the person is gay.
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Jul 17 2012 06:20pm
Quote (sylvannos @ Jul 17 2012 08:15pm)
Oh so JUST the BSA. Got it.


I don't understand this. The post you were referencing was talking about your post on where will they find salvation, relating to the discussion of gay attendance at churches.
The claim of stating that the just the BSA won't allow gays you seem to be arguing against is not in the discussion you quoted.
We all know there are many other groups that won't allow gays.

If the BSA wishes to do this then they can. I'm not going to tell private organizations what to do.

This post was edited by T3Ldb1J on Jul 17 2012 06:21pm
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Jul 17 2012 06:22pm
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I don't understand this. The post you were referencing was talking about your post on where will they find salvation, relating to the discussion of gay attendance at churches.
The claim of stating that the just the BSA won't allow gays you seem to be arguing against is not in the discussion you quoted.

If the BSA wishes to do this then they can. I'm not going to tell private organizations what to do.


That is common in PaRD
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Jul 17 2012 06:29pm
Quote (sylvannos @ Jul 17 2012 06:45pm)
Yeah. Explain how the exclusion of homosexuals is going to help them achieve salvation.


...again you jump to erroneous conclusions . We would never exclude them from attending our church although they mostly exclude themselves .We would of course expect them to conform to Biblical teaching and conduct while attending church services and functions.
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Jul 17 2012 08:24pm
Quote (bitg_pj @ Jul 17 2012 04:59pm)
You seem to be against using 1 piece of abnormal anecdotal evidence unless it supports your views...

I said most churches don't welcome openly gay people.


You also provided no statistics regarding this.
Go find some and report what you find.

Quote (T3Ldb1J @ Jul 17 2012 05:20pm)
I don't understand this. The post you were referencing was talking about your post on where will they find salvation, relating to the discussion of gay attendance at churches.
The claim of stating that the just the BSA won't allow gays you seem to be arguing against is not in the discussion you quoted.
We all know there are many other groups that won't allow gays.

If the BSA wishes to do this then they can. I'm not going to tell private organizations what to do.


Yeah. While we're at it, make a separate bathroom for blacks? Or better yet, just forget them altogether--let them sign their African click songs outside, while we refined white ranchers sit inside, enjoying the fruit of their labor. But let's be honest, without us, where would they be? We've given them civilization.
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Jul 17 2012 08:59pm
what a surprise msnbc

the whole country is not moving towards gay choices, only a select few who think they are smarter than everyone else but are not
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Jul 17 2012 10:29pm
talk about irony
cant have homo kids , but only catholic alter boys are more likely to be molested
i guess they want a challange .....
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Jul 17 2012 11:17pm
Quote (T3Ldb1J @ Jul 17 2012 04:20pm)
I don't understand this. The post you were referencing was talking about your post on where will they find salvation, relating to the discussion of gay attendance at churches.

We all know there are many other groups that won't allow gays.

If the BSA wishes to do this then they can. I'm not going to tell private organizations what to do.


Of course as a private organization they should be free to do what they want. I'm not going to pass legislation. But, there are plenty of other organizations that allow for homosexuals but don't deviate from Christian or other religious teachings. Specifically, the YMCA allows women, homosexuals, non-christians, former felons, etc. etc. into its doors because of the belief helping people and building a community can lead people to follow Christ. What I'm getting at is that the BSA could do the exact same thing, but would rather appeal to the right-wingers on the issues. It seems much easier to shut individuals out than it does to lend out a hand and help them cope with life.

Heaven forbid should young homosexuals learn about monogamy, keeping your body clean and safe, or being of good moral character.

Quote (WidowMaKer_MK @ Jul 17 2012 04:29pm)
We would never exclude them from attending our church although they mostly exclude themselves .We would of course expect them to conform to Biblical teaching and conduct while attending church services and functions.


My point is that you seem perfectly okay with allowing them to come to church services, but want to exclude them from Christian-oriented social activities and organizations (i.e. the BSA). This is hypocritical at best, and just hateful at worst.

Quote (WidowMaKer_MK @ Jul 17 2012 04:29pm)
...again you jump to erroneous conclusions .


Quote (T3Ldb1J @ Jul 17 2012 04:20pm)
The claim of stating that the just the BSA won't allow gays you seem to be arguing against is not in the discussion you quoted.


Quote (OtterJethro @ Jul 17 2012 04:22pm)
That is common in PaRD


When you give me dumb shit like this:

Quote (WidowMaKer_MK @ Jul 17 2012 12:26pm)
...unless that life skill is heterosexuality ?


Quote (killgoreisleet @ Jul 17 2012 12:25pm)
Yeah, a good life skill to have is knowing where your penis goes and doesn't go


Quote (WidowMaKer_MK @ Jul 17 2012 12:39pm)
but then again I'm not an Obama fanboy .


...expect it to be responded to with more strawmen, assumptions, and probably some ad hominems,

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