Quote (TiStuff @ 20 Dec 2020 20:11)
the argument is about basic necessities like grocery stores your trying to move it to luxury items
No, it applies to everything. "Basic necessities" as you call them all require the labor and investment of private people. You do not have the "right" to another person's milk. You did not purchase the cow, you do not feed the cow, care for the cow, or milk the cow. You have not paid for the right to that milk until you actually pay for the milk. Grocery stores trespass people off their properties all the time for everything from theft to loitering and panhandling to harassing other customers or employees. You have no "right" to enter private property, regardless of the type of good.
Quote (TiStuff @ 20 Dec 2020 20:11)
"Regarding the racial issue, you cannot by law refuse service based solely on the ethnicity, religion, or gender of the potential customer." No one brought this up please stay on topic.
You brought it up, though indirectly. The only example in recent history of people simply blocking people from their businesses willy nilly had to do with racial segregation. And that's now 100% illegal.
Quote (TiStuff @ 20 Dec 2020 20:11)
"...CAN refuse service based on lack of shirt, shoes, pants, mask, etc..." etc? what/were is your limit were would you draw the line? is there a line you wont cross?
It's private property. The limit is whatever the property owner says it is, and the law.
Quote (TiStuff @ 20 Dec 2020 20:11)
and your still dodging
"and the big question still is, "at what point do you draw the line" that question determines whether your an "order follower" or not. It determines if you have any principle."
The line is drawn at the law. You have no right to enter private property beyond what the law and the private property owner allows. The private business owner doesn't even have to open their business. Your ability to utilize their business exist entirely on their whim, always.
Once again, to claim you have "principles" because you want to force people to do or not do things on their own private property is completely assinine. It's their property. If you wish to utilize it, it's your obligation to follow their rules. If their rules are complete shit, then people will stop doing business with that business, and they will go out of business. It's as simple as that.