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Aug 24 2017 02:32pm
Quote (BMNation @ Aug 24 2017 07:00am)
It's almost unanimously agreed that Hiroshima and Nagasaki were horrific events, and yes, I'd even consider the decision to drop them a war crime, considering that they were civilian targets. But the dropping of the nukes is incomparable to the planned, attempted genocide of several ethnic groups. Once again, you're comparing apples to oranges and expecting the results to make sense.


I'm not even comparing them. I'm saying history is written by the winners and their is to many fudges by the allies and America has history of rewriting things in its favor.

If Nazis won the war America and the allies would be looked at as we look as Nazis today. Horrific mass murder of 10s of millions of Japanese and the causes of generations of Japanese to have long term radioactive poisoning.


Idk why ppl trust the American government so much. Look at the wars we are in and how they were started..... do people honestly still believe bush and his administration for the wars we are still currently in?
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Aug 24 2017 02:35pm
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It's also unanimously agreed among experts that the bombs prevented more deaths than it caused. The Japanese fought bitterly and refused to capitulate due to their code of honor. Hiroshima and Nagasaki were terrible events but cannot really be compared to the holocaust.


But the allies over exaggerated the holocaust so ppl think the same as what your thinking. And I think your not understanding that.


Like I said in earlier posts how would the bombings be looked at from the world history if Nazis won the war?

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Aug 24 2017 02:39pm
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I'm not even comparing them. I'm saying history is written by the winners and their is to many fudges by the allies and America has history of rewriting things in its favor.

If Nazis won the war America and the allies would be looked at as we look as Nazis today. Horrific mass murder of 10s of millions of Japanese and the causes of generations of Japanese to have long term radioactive poisoning.


Idk why ppl trust the American government so much. Look at the wars we are in and how they were started..... do people honestly still believe bush and his administration for the wars we are still currently in?


Now you're comparing a National Socialist regime to the government of a Republic... Are you actually insane? No one here is dumb enough to say that the American government is perfect, but it's no Nazi party.

And where are you getting 10s of millions of Japanese deaths from? The death toll from the bombings plus the fallout and aftermath came out to about 226,000, at most... Not even close to 10,000,000. Do your research or get the fuck out of PaRD for the love of all that is holy. The more you post, the dumber you sound.
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Aug 24 2017 02:55pm
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Now you're comparing a National Socialist regime to the government of a Republic... Are you actually insane? No one here is dumb enough to say that the American government is perfect, but it's no Nazi party.

And where are you getting 10s of millions of Japanese deaths from? The death toll from the bombings plus the fallout and aftermath came out to about 226,000, at most... Not even close to 10,000,000. Do your research or get the fuck out of PaRD for the love of all that is holy. The more you post, the dumber you sound.


Are you not understanding this would be the numbers the Nazis would write history of they had won the war? How are you not understanding my posts?


And how do you know the 226K number is correct? The body's were uncoverable from the incineration of the bomb and generations of Japanese had radioactive posioning.

And no need to get upset if your not understanding this thread.

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Aug 24 2017 03:12pm
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Are you not understanding this would be the numbers the Nazis would write history of they had won the war? How are you not understanding my posts?


And how do you know the 226K number is correct? The body's were uncoverable from the incineration of the bomb and generations of Japanese had radioactive posioning.

And no need to get upset if your not understanding this thread.


We base those numbers by censuses taken around the time, obviously. The rest of your argument is either nonsensical or is intentional deflection. I'm done arguing with someone who makes up numbers, denies studies, and won't even make a rational argument.

I don't understand your posts because you're an imbecile.
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Aug 24 2017 03:25pm
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Are you not understanding this would be the numbers the Nazis would write history of they had won the war? How are you not understanding my posts?


And how do you know the 226K number is correct? The body's were uncoverable from the incineration of the bomb and generations of Japanese had radioactive posioning.

And no need to get upset if your not understanding this thread.


Your posts are based on the belief that the number of Jews killed is not 5-6 million. You are wrong. You have been shown that you are wrong but choose to believe otherwise.

We know the number of casualties from the attacks on hiroshima and nagisaki because of things like pre-bomb population and record keeping that accounts for each individual that was alive before and was not after. The same way we know the number of Jews killed in the hollocaust, did you know there is an archive with the names and biography of 4.7 million + individuals who died in the holocaust.

If Germany claimed 10 million people died in the atomic bomb attacks it would be easy to disprove since less than 500,000 people lived in the area affected and it would hold the same credibility as Kim-Jong-il claiming to score 38 on a par 72 in his first and only round of golf ever played.
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Aug 24 2017 03:26pm
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We base those numbers by censuses taken around the time, obviously. The rest of your argument is either nonsensical or is intentional deflection. I'm done arguing with someone who makes up numbers, denies studies, and won't even make a rational argument.

I don't understand your posts because you're an imbecile.


Link me proof of the Japanese censuses pls. Proof?

Why was the Jewish population be for the war 15 million then after the war they state they were wrong and said before the war it was 16,3million? Was to help with the number of deaths they lied about. They said let's add another 1.3million Jews to the population before the war and just say the died in the holoucast


I'm not making the numbers up it would be if the Nazis won the war kiddo idk what's so hard to grasp and understand. Nazis would have write history to make America look bad as they can

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Aug 24 2017 03:33pm
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Are you not understanding this would be the numbers the Nazis would write history of they had won the war? How are you not understanding my posts?


And how do you know the 226K number is correct? The body's were uncoverable from the incineration of the bomb and generations of Japanese had radioactive posioning.

And no need to get upset if your not understanding this thread.


...today, I learned that death tolls being imprecise due to incineration of the evidence only applies to Japanese people, but not Jews.
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Aug 24 2017 03:36pm
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...today, I learned that death tolls being imprecise due to incineration of the evidence only applies to Japanese people, but not Jews.


It's when did I ever argue that Jews being incinerated was not added to the total death count?

You sir are bias

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Aug 24 2017 03:39pm
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It's when did I ever argue that Jews being incinerated was not added to the total death count?

You sir are bias


He said incineration of the evidence, not as a method of killing
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