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Mar 13 2012 04:41pm

Quote (Santara @ 14 Mar 2012 00:21)
Going by the same standards, I should be mocking you because democracies can be direct democracies or have only one party like in China.

Of course it's a democratic republic, but you assclowns on the left are always so desperate to throw around "democracy" due to the emotional nature attached to the word and leave out the republic part of it as if to minimize the importance of what actually protects minorities in America (the republic part) so I felt it necessary to point out your shortcoming. Plain and simple: just because Israel doesn't have the same system as us does not mean they are not also a "democracy."


Couldn't phrase it better,
He failed to understand every country as its own form of government mine is in emergency status since 1948
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War will be answered by war and peace will be answered by peace.


Plain Simple!

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Mar 13 2012 05:11pm
Quote (WhiteSouned @ Mar 13 2012 04:19pm)
All they need to do is stop fighting.
War will be answered by war and peace will be answered by peace.


They could all lay down their arms and sing kumbayah and it wouldn't change the fact they're living in a concentration camp with nothing but the scraps their masters allow them.
Israel could give the Palestinians their freedom, land, and equal civil rights- and maybe some Israelis would die for it, maybe they'd be risking something serious.
But for the good of mankind, its entirely up to the Israeli's to make the move, as they're the ones that hold all the power.

When Palestinians and Palestinian Rights Activists try to demonstrate for peace, they got either shot, bulldozed, or assassinated by Israel.
Oh, and Israel makes a good point of pissing on their graves after they're dead, like Rachel Corrie.

Peace will be answered by peace? Tell that to her. Tell that to the 9 killed on the Mavi Marmara. Tell that to Mordechai Vanunu.

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Going by the same standards, I should be mocking you because democracies can be direct democracies or have only one party like in China.

Of course it's a democratic republic, but you assclowns on the left are always so desperate to throw around "democracy" due to the emotional nature attached to the word and leave out the republic part of it as if to minimize the importance of what actually protects minorities in America (the republic part) so I felt it necessary to point out your shortcoming. Plain and simple: just because Israel doesn't have the same system as us does not mean they are not also a "democracy."


Israel isn't a democracy for the same reason China isn't a democracy- the people don't hold the power. They have nothing but token votes with ostensible mock power.
When you can vote for any party you want, but theres only 1 party, your vote is meaningless. And when the majority of the population can't even vote at all, there is no democracy to be had.
And thats what Israel is- an occupied terrortory where about half the population can't even vote. That is no democracy.

And no, "republic" isn't what protects the minorities in America, rofl. Thats the Jeffersonian part of the Jeffersonian Democracy, not the republic bit. The republic bit is just the structure of the government, it could just as easily be used to enforce majority rule.
No, the minorities are protected by the constitution. By the courts, not the senators.

This post was edited by Goomshill on Mar 13 2012 05:22pm
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Quote (Goomshill @ 14 Mar 2012 01:11)
They could all lay down their arms and sing kumbayah and it wouldn't change the fact they're living in a concentration camp with nothing but the scraps their masters allow them.
Israel could give the Palestinians their freedom, land, and equal civil rights- and maybe some Israelis would die for it, maybe they'd be risking something serious.
But for the good of mankind, its entirely up to the Israeli's to make the move, as they're the ones that hold all the power.

When Palestinians and Palestinian Rights Activists try to demonstrate for peace, they got either shot, bulldozed, or assassinated by Israel.
Oh, and Israel makes a good point of pissing on their graves after they're dead, like Rachel Corrie.

Peace will be answered by peace? Tell that to her. Tell that to the 9 killed on the Mavi Marmara. Tell that to Mordechai Vanunu.



Israel isn't a democracy for the same reason China isn't a democracy- the people don't hold the power. They have nothing but token votes with ostensible mock power.
When you can vote for any party you want, but theres only 1 party, your vote is meaningless. And when the majority of the population can't even vote at all, there is no democracy to be had.
And thats what Israel is- an occupied terrortory where about half the population can't even vote. That is no democracy.

And no, "republic" isn't what protects the minorities in America, rofl. Thats the Jeffersonian part of the Jeffersonian Democracy, not the republic bit. The republic bit is just the structure of the government, it could just as easily be used to enforce majority rule.
No, the minorities are protected by the constitution. By the courts, not the senators.


FOR THE LOVE OF GOD, WE ARE NOT IN CONTROL OF GAZA and they are not a miniority in Israel they are not Israel.

And these people came for peace:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iTmF3njCZf8

The Arabs in my country have the rights to vote and have representetive in the Knesset.
If you want it to be a discussion adress everything I am talking about.

Cause right now every time I prove you are wrong its a token and if you don't like it you simply move to the next subject.

we don't have a constitution yes it migth be problematic in yours eyes but we have some other things that are similar to the constituations then you can not change by normal majority in the Knesset:
Basic Laws: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Basic_Laws_of_Israel
The only reason we haven't manage to reach constituation are differences between Secular citizens and Religious one.
not even Arabs / Jews.

Not everything that doesn't enter to your template is wrong.
Its seems to me that you are the one who can't accept the different not me.
the Ignorance falling out of your ears.

This post was edited by Many_Names on Mar 13 2012 05:48pm
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Quote (Many_Names @ Mar 13 2012 05:38pm)
FOR THE LOVE OF GOD, WE ARE NOT IN CONTROL OF GAZA and they are not a miniority in Israel they are not Israel.


Here, join your fellows and edit this webpage to reflect your zionist propaganda:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Blockade_of_the_Gaza_Strip
They teach classes on zionist editing of wikipedia, maybe you could attend one?
You are in utter control over the Gaza Strip. And they are are in Israel as much as Israel is in Palestine.

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And these people came for peace:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iTmF3njCZf8


Do you have any idea what that man is saying? He's a bigger man than you.
He wants to die for his cause, knowing that his death would contribute more to peace than anything he could do in life.
Because dying for someone else's sins, to use your death to advance the cause of peace and goodwill towards men- not to die fighting- thats a value that the Christians over here at least have an inkling of. You? Looks naught.

Yes, they came for peace. And they're willing to give their own lives in the pursuit of peace. You make it out as if they're bomb throwing suicide terrorists with knives in every pocket. They were unarmed boats full of intellectuals and nobel laureates.

This post was edited by Goomshill on Mar 13 2012 08:41pm
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Quote (Goomshill @ 14 Mar 2012 04:41)
Here, join your fellows and edit this webpage to reflect your zionist propaganda:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Blockade%5Fof%5Fthe%5FGaza%5FStrip
They teach classes on zionist editing of wikipedia, maybe you could attend one?
You are in utter control over the Gaza Strip. And they are are in Israel as much as Israel is in Palestine.

Zionism is a stream of Jews that want to get a nation in the beginning of the last 20st century.
The achieved their goal a ceased to exist.
If I am blocking Gaza it doesn't mean I control.
I am not running their government nor have military in the area unless attack or preattack in order to prevent.
The blockade is legal and approved by the international communitiy, you keep crying about it but like people said here:
War will be answered by war and peace will be answered by peace.



Quote (Goomshill @ 14 Mar 2012 04:41)
Do you have any idea what that man is saying? He's a bigger man than you.
He wants to die for his cause, knowing that his death would contribute more to peace than anything he could do in life.
Because dying for someone else's sins, to use your death to advance the cause of peace and goodwill towards men- not to die fighting- thats a value that the Christians over here at least have an inkling of. You? Looks naught.
Yes, they came for peace. And they're willing to give their own lives in the pursuit of peace. You make it out as if they're bomb throwing suicide terrorists with knives in every pocket. They were unarmed boats full of intellectuals and nobel laureates.

I don't know if you are dumb or just playing dumb.
how can you come for peace and die trying? this doesn't make sence.

Trying to provoke the Israeli army was dumb thing it was even dumber to try and hit them with iron polls, axes and knifes.
the case was investigated afted the inccident, no one was killed until one of the protestors used hot weapon.

And it all could be prevented if they docked in the Israeli harbor while we offered to transfer it into Gaza with their watch over it
whats better then that?

The flotila was 110% provocation.

But I guess now I know why you are defending the palestinians mindlessly you are one of them.
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