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Dec 13 2024 09:07am
Quote (Many_Names @ Dec 13 2024 05:00am)
I think its wrong move we can help them defend and maybe form a state but not directly join us.


I doubt Israel would want them to actually join the country. It’s a liability, Israel would basically be subsidizing that region for decades, a net negative on Israel from economic perspective.

What’s more likely to happen is under Israeli military protection it will get autonomy while remaining part of Syria.

Israel will arm them and share intel and probably some resources but zero chance they get folded under Israel.
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Dec 13 2024 12:14pm
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I doubt Israel would want them to actually join the country. It’s a liability, Israel would basically be subsidizing that region for decades, a net negative on Israel from economic perspective.

What’s more likely to happen is under Israeli military protection it will get autonomy while remaining part of Syria.

Israel will arm them and share intel and probably some resources but zero chance they get folded under Israel.


This. From a security perspective, gaining a buffer zone in this direction is a huge boon for Israel, a country whose military predicament has always been its lack of strategic depth.
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Quote (Black XistenZ @ 13 Dec 2024 20:14)
This. From a security perspective, gaining a buffer zone in this direction is a huge boon for Israel, a country whose military predicament has always been its lack of strategic depth.


The claim that we “lack” strategic depth seems disconnected, given that we have reshaped the entire Middle East in 1 year.
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Dec 13 2024 12:54pm
Quote (Many_Names @ Dec 13 2024 08:18pm)
The claim that we “lack” strategic depth seems disconnected, given that we have reshaped the entire Middle East in 1 year.


He is not wrong.
Israel does lack strategic depth
East-west is just too thin. You can’t allow yourself to lose some land and regroup your forces and go at it again. That’s a disadvantage we are dealing with that raises every time we talk about the West Bank, for example.
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Dec 13 2024 06:27pm
Israels still going ham in syria:

Israeli forces have captured al-Khalidiyah, Rwihinah and the heights of Mughr al-Meer, Daraa direction, south Syria.

Earlier today, Israeli troops entered the former Syrian Arab Army base at Tall ash-Sham but withdrew a couple of hours later.

276 sqkm of Syria is under Israel's control (excluding the Golan).
https://t.me/rnintel/23465

Also, for those who are interested, israels movements in syria are very similar to the war of attrition in the Bashan salient in the yom kippur war. History sure does rhyme!

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=War_of_Attrition_in_the_Bashan_Salient&wprov=rarw1
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Quote (zorzin @ Dec 13 2024 04:27pm)
Israels still going ham in syria:

Israeli forces have captured al-Khalidiyah, Rwihinah and the heights of Mughr al-Meer, Daraa direction, south Syria.

Earlier today, Israeli troops entered the former Syrian Arab Army base at Tall ash-Sham but withdrew a couple of hours later.

276 sqkm of Syria is under Israel's control (excluding the Golan).
https://t.me/rnintel/23465

Also, for those who are interested, israels movements in syria are very similar to the war of attrition in the Bashan salient in the yom kippur war. History sure does rhyme!

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=War_of_Attrition_in_the_Bashan_Salient&wprov=rarw1


Yep. They'll make huge conquests then annex more stuff but give most back which gives them carte blanche to start even more shit later.

My theory is that Israel's borders are meant to ultimately reach the Persian gulf, dominate the entire east med coast all the way up to Turkey, and own the suez canal. That provides the Big GAE with an unbroken trade artery connecting Europe and Asia through all those vital sea and land lanes, which cucks the shit out of China and Russia.
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Quote (Thebarba @ Dec 13 2024 08:19pm)
Yep. They'll make huge conquests then annex more stuff but give most back which gives them carte blanche to start even more shit later.

My theory is that Israel's borders are meant to ultimately reach the Persian gulf, dominate the entire east med coast all the way up to Turkey, and own the suez canal. That provides the Big GAE with an unbroken trade artery connecting Europe and Asia through all those vital sea and land lanes, which cucks the shit out of China and Russia.


Israel has a population of less than 10 million people. Most of these people are not militaristic or empire building focused, they just want to be left alone and not be threatened. To go on this expansionary conquest would require a lot of resources and commitments of men, and for what? Arabs don't want Israelis ruling over them, the bold is highly unlikely and there's no logic behind it for Israel to undertake.
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Quote (ofthevoid @ Dec 13 2024 06:19pm)
Israel has a population of less than 10 million people. Most of these people are not militaristic or empire building focused, they just want to be left alone and not be threatened. To go on this expansionary conquest would require a lot of resources and commitments of men, and for what? Arabs don't want Israelis ruling over them, the bold is highly unlikely and there's no logic behind it for Israel to undertake.


Not necessarily a full annexation and settlement, just total military dominance by Israel and the Big GAE uninterrupted by regime changes that require messy wars or coups

This post was edited by Thebarba on Dec 13 2024 09:26pm
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Quote (zorzin @ 14 Dec 2024 02:27)
Israels still going ham in syria:

Israeli forces have captured al-Khalidiyah, Rwihinah and the heights of Mughr al-Meer, Daraa direction, south Syria.

Earlier today, Israeli troops entered the former Syrian Arab Army base at Tall ash-Sham but withdrew a couple of hours later.

276 sqkm of Syria is under Israel's control (excluding the Golan).
https://t.me/rnintel/23465

Also, for those who are interested, israels movements in syria are very similar to the war of attrition in the Bashan salient in the yom kippur war. History sure does rhyme!

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=War_of_Attrition_in_the_Bashan_Salient&wprov=rarw1


There are currently no verified reports of Israeli forces capturing areas such as Al-Khalidiyah, Rwihinah, or Mughr al-Meer in southern Syria. However, recent activity indicates heightened military engagement in the region. Israeli forces have reportedly occupied Tal al-Harra in the western Daraa countryside and other strategic positions near the Golan Heights buffer zone, likely in response to the ongoing instability following the apparent collapse of the Assad government.

The Israeli military has been involved in securing key areas, including former Syrian army outposts, such as Mount Hermon, to maintain control and prevent spillover of militant activity. These moves come amidst broader geopolitical shifts in Syria following the fall of Assad’s regime, with various factions vying for control   .
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Dec 14 2024 12:39am
Quote (ofthevoid @ 13 Dec 2024 17:07)
I doubt Israel would want them to actually join the country. It’s a liability, Israel would basically be subsidizing that region for decades, a net negative on Israel from economic perspective.

What’s more likely to happen is under Israeli military protection it will get autonomy while remaining part of Syria.

Israel will arm them and share intel and probably some resources but zero chance they get folded under Israel.


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