Apparently 8% of the people believed that the allegations against Moore are true, but still voted for him.

What the fuck is wrong with people.

Btw Trump is about to beat his disapproval score in the next days, nice Christmass, just need another Mueller troll indictment to make it great again.

This post was edited by Saucisson6000 on Dec 13 2017 02:51am

Honestly the online reactions read so much like the Dems won the Superbowl vs the Reps. Two party systems are pretty fucked up.

We can see that the Dems definitely learned from the Clinton campaign though. Doug Jones had the black vote on lock. He campaigned at churches, community centers etc.

you cant compare the alabama race to a national race.

in alabama, republicans are at a huge structural advantage, so jones making the campaign mostly a referendum on roy moore's personality while keeping it low on the fact that he is a pro-choice democrat, was a winning strategy.
on the national stage, both sides are of roughly equal strength and clinton trying to make the campaign a referendum on trump's personality while giving people little reason to vote for her was a losing strategy.

also, we have to keep in mind that roy moore is a lot more fringe and divisive than trump. and lets also keep in mind that trump was never too high on the christian values or the moral train. him sleeping around in his younger years and aggressively hitting on women was kinda what voters expected from him.
moore, on the other hand, ran as the champion of evangelicals, of voters who put a high emphasis on christian/moral/family values. him preying on 14- or 15-year-old girls contradicts everything he was trying to stand for and clearly turned a lot of his base off. in the end, it was the difference in turnout between jones' base, urban and black voters, and moore's base, rural and white voters, that cost moore the election.

This post was edited by Black XistenZ on Dec 13 2017 05:02am

I'm not really sure if your Alabama-vs-federal comparison is really true. Trump spent a huge amount of time bashing Clinton's background, and it's pretty likely that Clinton would have won if it weren't for her e-mails scandal. I think that, in general, we live in a time where people use smear campaigns to try to win elections without having to worry about strong, cohesive political programs. This is evident in both of the USA's parties, and all over Europe as well.

sheep herder > welfare swamp rats



pollster-esque

This post was edited by thesnipa on Dec 13 2017 06:18am

So you admit that Trump sexually assaulted women just like Bill, and we should hold them both accountable?

Sounds good, glad we can agree on that.

A lot of smug mother fuckers who spent a few weeks saying "It's up to the voters of Alabama to decide" while also separately posting "It's Alabama, the GOP can't lose" are going to start posting about how this election didn't matter all along. I guarantee it.