Multiple things. Starting from how he operates his Administration. He ramrods shit through, and every time he's shot down in Courts, he just rewords the exact same thing and does it again. He's not "slightly left of center". He doesn't fall on the political compass at all. His stance is whatever will gain him more wealth and power. The guy has what... 40 years in public office? His stance on things is very clear: Grifter.

He's thrown himself into globalism and green new deal politics because the payoffs have made his family multi millionaires and kept his son out of serious legal trouble. He's done many many "things" at this point. Your portrayal of him as some "middle of the road guy" was never true. He's the kind of cancer that's been rotting our political system from the inside out for decades all for personal gain, and his "approval ratings" are clear evidence of just how much the people he swore to serve appreciate his policies. Where you were cautioning that Bernie would cause a red wave because he's too "radical", I'd say the Bernie approach would have been far less radical, and far less damaging to the every day American.

When wealth and power is your only religion, the people suffer.

This post was edited by InsaneBobb on Jul 14 2022 10:17am

LEGAL Militias are 100% Okay, Don't let them take this away from us. Militias are a good thing.

This is an older video, Forming and being a part of a Militia is legal and every state has atleast 1.

They are held to a higher law standard. There is a hierarchy of positions. Legally speaking.

This post was edited by Mondain on Jul 14 2022 10:20am

bernie in office pushing for medicare for all, cancelling student debt by EO, and approving massive green new deal policies would be less radical than standard pragmatist centrism and corrupt ukrainian dealings biden did years before taking office?

so far bidens globalism is continuing to sell guns to ukraine, while also approving the sales of US oil reserves. bidens green new deal shit was ineffectual EPA bolstering we havent even seen really carried through.

IMO you self identify as nearer to center than you are and therefore forget centrism is mostly about pragmatic deal making, not actual middleground stances on political issues. center = get shit done, not sit around and say "both sides have a point" while nothing gets done lol.


so far you have:

1. biden isnt center because i define center and stuff he did mostly before being potus breaks that definition
2. he's green new deal because of 1 small move that hasnt done much
3. he's damaging to american lives because inflation and hmmm surely there must be more

do you have actual links to where i said he'd operate his admin differently? i do vaguely remember thinking he'd work with legislature more due to years there and relationships with mitch and co. other than that i dont feel incorrect about anything tbh lol. no part of the biden presidency has surprised me.

Biden isn't a socialist by any means. That's kind of the issue I have with Democrats; they say they are leftist but in fact they're a rightist alternative to the extreme right Republicans.

Biden should have taken steps to improve the education and medication markets, for instance. He's doing none of that, despite heavily campaigning on things like student debt.

He's exactly what you said: a corporate shill.

LOL. Just LOL. We'll leave it there and call it good.

As a parting note, when did we "sell" weapons to Ukraine? https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2022/05/20/upshot/ukraine-us-aid-size.html



Not a corporate shill. A grifter pure and simple. More wealth and power for he and his family, by whatever means necessary. Can be corporate, can be foreign governments. Doesn't matter who offers it.

He focuses in on "issues" that aren't federal in purview in the first place, such as local police forces, abortion, etc. so that it'll seem like he cares about your agenda. He doesn't and never did. If you want him to enact your policies, go grease Hunter's hand with $20 Million. You might see some action.

This post was edited by InsaneBobb on Jul 14 2022 10:45am

we've given them a lot, we've authorized allies to give them some, we've sold them some.

so you said i said things, wont show me where i said them or counter when i refute you saying i was wrong, then bounce. have to say for someone who historically likes the sound of their own keystrokes so much im disappointed.

I'm laughing at you because you're lying through your teeth. Don't bother responding to me with your bullshit. I'm not in any way interested.

should be super easy to just like, idk, post where i contradicted myself previously.

i said biden would get more done than bernie, he has. you say if has been disastrous for american families, i never said it wouldnt be, but then challenged how disastrously it has been and you havent responded.

you said potus bernie would be less radical than typical political elite governing, to which i laugh.

I'm not interested in going through a point by point on how wrong your predictions from 2020 any more than I'm interested in hearing your attempts to reclassify Biden's active war against the US Energy sector as "1 small move" or his gifting of $56 Billion to Ukraine (1/3rd of their GDP?!) as "selling them weapons".

It's great that you assume everyone is stupid and uninformed. Doesn't mean you're worth engaging with.

This post was edited by InsaneBobb on Jul 14 2022 11:31am

bidens "active war" is a drop in the bucked compared to what the green new deal as it was drafted signaled. its FAR closer to center than what the radical left wants. theyve been begging him to do more on climate change, and begging him to cancel student debt unilaterally among other things. he hasn't.

as to ukraine i offered up our arms sales (and omitted just by a single word choice on accident the arms aid which is larger) to counter that he's a globalist president, because thats been the entirety in my estimation of his governing on the world stage. it wasnt an attempt to obstruct the relationship between sales and aid lol. i brought it up.

funny tho that u bring up i'm wrong on many things, vaguely answer what those things are, dont respond to me asking where i said the "wrong" things you're eluding to, then run for the hills.

i'm not opposed to being wrong, i was genuinely curious what i got wrong, then u tossed buzzwords out that were your opinion of how i was wrong and lacked the receipts. im not a biden supporter, im happy to admit if i got the trajectory of his presidency wrong, specifically in comparison to how bernie would have done as that's the topic. you're dodging and we both know it.

This post was edited by thesnipa on Jul 14 2022 11:37am