"unprecedented peace", oh really? So what was Iraq, Afghanistan, Syria, Yugoslavia, Ukraine, Libya, Chechnya and so many others about?

Reality is, the United States took its position as "global leader" in the aftermath of the dissolution of the USSR and heavily abused it, bombing whoever it wanted, doing false flags wherever it wanted, launching regime change ops wherever it wanted, with nobody to stand up to these tactics, quite literally bullying half the planet into submission and causing wanton death and destruction all over the place, wherever it pleased and whenever it wanted. These are not the actions of a wise or responsible leader, but of wanna-be tyrants.

However, this time has now ended. Russia has regained enormous military strength under Putin's leadership while China has prospered economically many times greater than the United States. These two countries have united and formed a de-facto alliance in the face of western aggression. If the US goes to war with both at the same time, it will certainly lose, at the cost of the decimation of the overall global population.

Putin was able to both stop the US regime change operation in Syria where the US used ISIS/Al-qaeda as proxies by targeting the militants as well as broker a peace settlement in Ukraine (which is now being broken.) These are clear indications that the old age of unquestioned US hegemony has ended.

At any rate, where I'm going with this is that it doesn't have to be a world where you're either the dominator or the dominated. Anybody who still thinks along these lines is the equivalent of a race of dinosaurs that is now in the process of going extinct. It's time for you to accept this reality instead of cling to outdated supremacist ideology that has brought untold suffering to this planet for centuries. Fairytales of "American dominance" is no better than being a White Supremacist. You of all people should understand that. Indeed, I find it ironic that leftists like yourself claim to have the moral highground but still cheer on atrocities committed by your own nation's government in the name of "American dominance." Truly hypocrisy at it's finest.

American hegemony over the planet is ending. This is inevitable, as the old empire can no longer be sustained. It is crumbling and will eventually disappear completely. You should be glad, because this will mean the end of oppression and tyranny over the lives of so many innocent people. Instead you would rather try to keep it going, and risk nuclear war? Pretty stupid, not to mention arrogant.

With no more empires competing for dominance, but instead a world of nations that consider eachother as equals treating eachother fairly instead of engaging in subversive operations designed to destabilize eachother, this world will be vastly improved. There will be much less suffering. If you can't understand that, then I don't know what to tell you. Get a heart?

Great post. The kind of information you won't see on the news.

Believe it or not, you can be an American but still be humble and reject imperialism in all its forms. I am truly surprised that so many of my fellow peers don't see things this way.

American "dominance" comes at the cost of treating the planet like a game of chess and forcibly oppressing millions via brute force, murdering millions via sanctions that deny people life-saving medicine, food and treatments, while oppressing millions more by supporting vassals that become mass-murdering dictators and doing lovely things like supporting ISIS because they make for a useful proxy force in places like Syria, where it's not possible to place US troops because it would be too politically untenable.

Guess what, it's not worth it.

You're a total buffoon who apparently hasn't actually read a single one of my posts correctly.

Put the propaganda aside for two seconds and realize a few things:

1. The coup in Ukraine which led to the current crisis was performed by the US in 2014 by the Obama admin. Thus the blame for this crisis lands squarely on the US for causing this chain of events in the first place.

2. The Ukrainian army is now threatening to attack the breakaway region of Donbass/Luhansk, which is populated by those whom rejected the coup.

3. The Russian government is warning Ukraine not to attack Donbass, otherwise they might intervene militarily to prevent further bloodshed. Not once have they indicated they plan to "invade" Ukraine, but it is possible they will destroy any attacking Ukrainian forces against Donbass.

This is the actual situation. You're still droning on about Russia starting a war and how Biden is too "weak" to stand up to him. That's the GOP's narrative, but it's not grounded in reality and it is just petty nonsense that doesn't address the real cause of the crisis. It won't be Russia starting a war, it is Ukraine which is starting a war under direction from the US while the media covers for them and blames Russia for everything (as always.) This crisis has nothing to do with right vs. left nonsensical petty arguing, and has no place for those kind of petty party politics, because in reality the situation is totally independent from that.

There is nothing for Biden to "stand up to" because a) there is no threat of Russian invasion and b ) it is Ukraine which is the aggressor here. On the contrary, what Biden *should* be doing is tell the Ukrainians to back off from Donbass and stick to the Minsk peace agreement, which they are now breaking.

I understand many of you people live in a fairytale land where a totally false picture of geopolitics has been painted for you, but if you could put aside your own bias for two seconds and actually cared about the truth you would realize what is actually going on here.

Honestly I'm really disappointed in the conservative position regarding the Ukraine crisis. Conservatives know that they've been lied to about Russia "stealing the 2016 election", they know the media is fake news, but when it comes to geopolitics and war they gobble up the very same lies from the very same people that they have themselves called fake news, just to promote their own selfish narrative about how Biden is "weak" or whatever. That is not only totally pointless but it ignores the root cause of the crisis, it ignores Ukraine's aggression towards its own citizens and the responsibility it bears, and it ignores the truth about what really has happened in Ukraine for the past 8 years. Damn it makes me sick.

What a joke.

This post was edited by chopstickz777 on Jan 26 2022 02:39pm

Newsflash: The reason nothing happened with Russia under Trump was because Trump did not provoke tensions with Russia, unlike what Biden is doing now. It has nothing to do with who was "tougher".

Biden gave the Ukrainians a greenlight for an offensive operation against Donbass, while promising support and of-course covering their asses with the fake news media. In other words, Biden's administration has deliberately provoked this unnecessary crisis, and he is pushing the Ukrainians to break the Minsk agreements in a bid to force Russia to intervene so they can be painted as evil aggressors whom the entire world must punish.

That's just naturally what happens when you have a bunch of Neocons in the white house.

Hello!

I have definitely found this topic very interesting as of late.

I was watching an interesting news broadcast last night which showed White House Deputy National Security Advisor Jonathan Finer indicating that the borders of a nation should always remain soverign, inviolate and respected.

Then we learned they weren't talking about the porous US border that everyone is called Xenophobic for mentioning.

We were talking about the Ukranian border. At first, it didn't make much sense because Ukraine isn't a United States country or territory.

Then....... I remembered the Ukranian Gas Company Burisma - everything answered itself at that point

Do remember, there is a reason this current administration has a vested interest in Ukraine - dirty laundry being aired (without FBI intervention/damage control) as we approach the midterms with some of the lowest approval ratings in history would just be the final nail

The Biden administration has failed in my opinion and it's been barely a year. But, they will never let go / abandon the hand that fed Hunter for direct access to Joe when he was VP (don't forget the 10% cut for the "The Big Guy", which was also included in his backdoor dealings with China too). That's the core reason you are seeing this response from our country since it involves Ukraine (and on behalf of America, it's sad and I am sorry)

This post was edited by CyrusTheGreat on Jan 26 2022 03:48pm

There are a number of reasons why you might not want to give a hostile investigation free reign to as much information as they'd like. The weird reframe to "prove his innocence" is because the premise is ridiculous.

lol, i know exactly ONE president who publicly defended putin for KILLING JOURNALISTS AND POLITICAL OPPOSITION, who publicly stated he believed putin over every single one of his own intelligence agencies when it comes to ELECTION MEDDLING, and who just handed over a whole country, SYRIA, to the russians while getting nothing in return, when he abandoned the kurds, america's only reliably ally in the middle east, relocating those troops to saudi-arabia and iraq.

if there was ever a president who made america russia's "pussy", it's trump, lol.

"Killing journalists and political opposition" aka more hysterical lies made up by the CIA which is in cahoots with the lying mainstream media.

Here's a hint for you, Putin doesn't need to kill off his political opposition because he enjoys tremendous popularity in his country. This is what happens when you actually make an effort to serve your people and don't prostitute yourself out to outside interests.

Secondly, the US never should have been in Syria in the first place and, if I'm going to use your style of arguing, LITERALLY SUPPORTED THE SAME TERRORIST GROUPS SUPPOSEDLY RESPONSIBLE FOR 9/11 FOR PURPOSES OF REGIME CHANGE. The CIA gave billions in weapons to terrorist groups responsible for murdering tens of thousands of Syrians. But I suppose it's worth it because "MUH EVIL RUSSIA", am I right?

Pulling out of Syria is the right thing to do. Those people have suffered enough, and they only suffer even more under US occupation. But I suppose liberals enjoy making others suffer so long as it somehow hurts those dirty Russians, am I right?

Unfortunately Trump pussied out once he triggered a media shitstorm, and his "friends" in the Republican congress told him they would vote to impeach if he pulled out of Syria.

Don't even get me started on the Kurds. Don't worry though, the US will certainly abandon them completely once the US inevitable accepts reality and pulls out of Syria completely.

are you a russian troll, or just incredibly ignorant? here are just some of the most high profile cases of putin critics that were murdered:

whistle-blowers / political opposition: sergei yushenkov, alexander litvinenko, denis voronenkov, boris berezovsky, boris nemtsov
journalists / lawyers: anna politkovskaya, sergei magnitsky, natalia estemirova, nikolay andrushchenko, maksim borodin

again, those are just the most high profile cases, and only successful assassinations, meaning cases like aleksey navalny, who narrowly survived and is currently locked up on bogus charges, are not even included... imagine trying to explain those away by putin's alleged "popularity"... i heard saddam hussein was also incredibly "popular" - after he eliminated his majority opposition (with generous american help btw) and made sure that everyone criticising him knew that was a risk not only to their own life but that of their whole family.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_journalists_killed_in_Russia