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Jan 12 2022 03:01am
Quote (Hamm @ Jan 12 2022 08:58am)
Wouldnt be better for 49lvl duels anyway 2 Sox than?

with 2 Fire Skills 20 Fcr 3 ball 3 mastery +life +mana..resists?
Instead 1 Sox with 2 Sorc Skills?
So you can put 2 jewels of your choice what your sorc needed.

Im not caster player anymore but in melee,
i preffer weapon with 2 sox so 40% Ds Lo Lo or 2x Jewels put
instead 1 sox with +skills..

I dont know really but in all items, diadems, armors, shields, weapons, is 2 Sockets looking as best choices ;)


2light/20fcr/3lightning/2chain/3mastery/13life level 30. at that level the best jewel you could use is something like 8 life 15 mana 30 cold res, and i guess damage to mana ? so well, if it only rolls 1 sox, its not the end of the world, you still have an insane orb. The problem for 30 is that vita light is just not viable.
For level 49, you can live w/o 2 sox. a 2sorc/3light/3mastery/3ts would also be regarded as a trophy. for sure you can play vita light at MLD and you can x2 7/9/9/15 the orb, but its not a deal breaker if its only 1 sox.

/edit ~ for level 30 the duels are in normal so well we dont need those numbers of stacked res. you get enough from boots+viper(+anya).
/edit ~ for weapons for sure you want 2 sox but if a 40ias 400-450ed eth repl highland spawns 1 sox for mld, thats a trophy all day long (i really dont mind if someone else thinks this is not a trophy).
/edit ~ have a look at my conversation with flameyes in the Matri Javs topic in the TR ~ https://forums.d2jsp.org/topic.php?t=90415742&f=103 2jav 40ias 441ed eth repl and amp 1/20 repl time and he rates that 8/10. i mean yes we want perfect with 1/0 but in order to be a trophy some items dont need 6 mods (or 2 sox).
/edit the player base is currently higher then it has been in 15+ years.


This post was edited by ferdia on Jan 12 2022 03:14am
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Quote (ferdia @ 12 Jan 2022 10:01)
2light/20fcr/3lightning/2chain/3mastery/13life level 30. at that level the best jewel you could use is something like 8 life 15 mana 30 cold res, and i guess damage to mana ? so well, if it only rolls 1 sox, its not the end of the world, you still have an insane orb.


Yes but is possible 2 sox on it?
If yes than you know :) 16life 30mana 60cold resists.

Anyway, game is 4month old and there will be many finds,
100% more than in original game in next years.

Reason is simple, alot more players are getting drops, are crafting and are imbuing..
And many old users from original d2 that were boting are playing so they will Craft and Imbue many items..
Also i Think personally that this Resurrected new blizzard,
is alot more Drops frequency...than original d2 you can see many items..
And if you remember in d2 wasnt so everything or 80% was from bots possible only but in this game looks like many drops everywhere.. i still think this game is completely different and more drops and more gz items will come in next months next years..

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Quote (ferdia @ Jan 11 2022 10:46pm)
if its level 30-49 it is. For level 30 the only alternate to a 2/20/3/3 is Spirit sword and well, thats only 2 skills. I dont expect to see another light orb that good any time soon, noting the sheer volume of mods that kick the level requirements up.



2 skills isn’t 49 your argument is it?

This post was edited by DrFaGgIt on Jan 12 2022 04:26am
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Quote (DrFaGgIt @ Jan 12 2022 10:26am)
2 skills isn’t 49 your argument is it?


The "argument" as you refer to it is whether a 1 socketed item can ever be a trophy. Everyone is entitled to rate an item as they see fit. My own view is that LLD or MLD items (and some HLD items) do not always need 2 sox to be trophies. You are welcome to have your own opinion on this. The problem with magic and rare items in general is that the higher level you go, the more uniques and runeword come into play, making it ever harder for a rare to beat a unique/runeword. Therefore when something like the Op's orb comes along it is generally appreciated, if there is a corresponding build to which it can be used.

The uniques/runeword issue is much diminished the lower you go. i.e. GL beating Grief @ HLD, but an Oath can be beaten (and anything better then an oath for MLD can be considered a trophy). similarly if you can figure out how to mitigate the lost fcr/fhr etc from spirit with a rare orb, such as the one posted above, it can be very good at level 30 dueling or at level 49 dueling, even if its only +1 socket.

also +2 skills on an orb is level 42, not level 49. AFAIK its the repl life that makes this level 52. with +2fire and no repl, the Op orb would be level 30.

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Quote (ferdia @ Jan 12 2022 03:52am)
The "argument" as you refer to it is whether a 1 socketed item can ever be a trophy. Everyone is entitled to rate an item as they see fit. My own view is that LLD or MLD items (and some HLD items) do not always need 2 sox to be trophies. You are welcome to have your own opinion on this. The problem with magic and rare items in general is that the higher level you go, the more uniques and runeword come into play, making it ever harder for a rare to beat a unique/runeword. Therefore when something like the Op's orb comes along it is generally appreciated, if there is a corresponding build to which it can be used.

The uniques/runeword issue is much diminished the lower you go. i.e. GL beating Grief @ HLD, but an Oath can be beaten (and anything better then an oath for MLD can be considered a trophy). similarly if you can figure out how to mitigate the lost fcr/fhr etc from spirit with a rare orb, such as the one posted above, it can be very good at level 30 dueling or at level 49 dueling, even if its only +1 socket.

also +2 skills on an orb is level 42, not level 49. AFAIK its the repl life that makes this level 52. with +2fire and no repl, the Op orb would be level 30.



Holy shit rofl the argument was not whether 1ps could be a trophy, but that it can’t compare to this orb. You said that an equal light or popped then referenced a 1os orb

Go back to your cave
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great orb ^^ 9.5/10
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awesome orb. didnt red the 5 pages but whoever says the oposite just ignore him (if thats the case) GG FIND
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Quote (DrFaGgIt @ Jan 12 2022 02:04pm)
Holy shit rofl the argument was not whether 1ps could be a trophy, but that it can’t compare to this orb. You said that an equal light or popped then referenced a 1os orb

Go back to your cave


To my mind your saying that 1 soc is not trophy and therefore all 1 sox orbs cannot be compared with 2 sox ones. i will leave it at that (no point trying to reason with you).

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Holy.......

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