They're not excuses, they're explanations. I don't agree with much of what the president says and does, but I try not to make the mistake our media and certain commentators make in assuming that night is day in order to contradict Trump. Everything he does is not wrong, and we shouldn't discourage his good tendencies just because we dislike his bad ones.

Trump reached out to North Korea and initiated dialogue, that is good. The DPRK is throwing a tantrum now because the last meeting didn't go as well as they hoped, and they don't like being ignored. That's also good in a way, because it demonstrates their desire to establish a productive relationship. Much like Trump, North Korea doesn't know how to "act" in our sense of the word. Rather than dismissing them, we should try to understand their underlying motives, because they are acting rationally as it makes sense to them.

A poor, isolated North Korea is one that's necessarily dependent on China. Kim Jung Un has specifically moved to distance himself from China (e.g. executing his uncle, a confidant of the CCP regime), but it's difficult to take that too far when he's dependent on Chinese assistance and lacks an alternative.

We don't have the means to overthrow the regime without tremendous cost, so we have to decide, do we ignore the regime or engage with them? The more North Korea is pushed to liberalize its economic system (which is already taking place given that the command economy collapsed decades ago), the better off their people will be, the more influence we will have over the country, and the better positioned to exploit the inevitable collapse of the Kim regime. Our goal should be for this to develop along Vietnam lines, and not have the new leadership (generals?) rushing into Chinese arms.

Sanctions. And not starting nuclear war.

Dude barely made it down a ramp and was all shaky with that glass of water

Happy Birthday Trump. June 14th 1946

Classic Trump tweet response, gotta love it:

"The ramp that I descended after my West Point Commencement speech was very long & steep, had no handrail and, most importantly, was very slippery. The last thing I was going to do is “fall” for the Fake News to have fun with. Final ten feet I ran down to level ground. Momentum!"

I watched the ramp descent video and agree with Trump, btw. Didn't really see an issue with the way he went down considering the above factors.

It’s his high heels. Makes it treacherous

Bone spur flare up.




Eclectic group. Good card game for sure.

This post was edited by Skinned on Jun 14 2020 05:53pm

He’s finished

Obligatory Drumpf is finished #33749292