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Jun 30 2018 03:49pm
I've been racking my brain trying to think of ways to improve this game for new players and I realized I forget what its like to be a new player. So maybe you can help, what are some things noobs do?

1. Jubilance climb, everyone tries it
2. Ee charm on a melee character
3. "What kind of gear do I need for master quest?"
4. Not understanding all the weird well/climb rules people have

That's really all I remember, there has to be more, help me out.

This post was edited by dude_927 on Jun 30 2018 03:52pm
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Jun 30 2018 03:53pm
Vast majority of noobs log into the game, go to catacombs, hit back twice and press f5 shortly after because they can't figure out what to do.
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Jun 30 2018 04:22pm
Quote (Bob888 @ Jun 30 2018 04:53pm)
Vast majority of noobs log into the game, go to catacombs, hit back twice and press f5 shortly after because they can't figure out what to do.


I'm not sure what that means
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Jun 30 2018 06:05pm
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I'm not sure what that means



You qualify
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Jun 30 2018 06:17pm
Alt f4 pls
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Jun 30 2018 06:31pm
Quote (FirstDoorFail @ Jun 30 2018 07:05pm)
You qualify


Quote (TiMasse @ Jun 30 2018 07:17pm)
Alt f4 pls




Ah now I remember what it was like trying to gather gear in this community, perhaps we should all think long and hard about what really killed this game, I suspect it wasn't the updates.

E: the only reason I ever mq'd at all was natester and datis (and Rex when sober lol)

Ee: look on softcore, everyone's afraid to offer cuz y'all are so elitist "pm me bin plz, I don't wanna look silly in front of everyone"

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Ah now I remember what it was like trying to gather gear in this community, perhaps we should all think long and hard about what really killed this game, I suspect it wasn't the updates.

E: the only reason I ever mq'd at all was natester and datis (and Rex when sober lol)

Ee: look on softcore, everyone's afraid to offer cuz y'all are so elitist "pm me bin plz, I don't wanna look silly in front of everyone"


Wrong. Nobody offers because the day and age of "Bidding" on items is long gone. You (The Seller) either know what you want for the item, or its not truly for sale. I don't bid specifically because I will not waste my time getting FG if you do not have a price. Everyone that holds onto gear has a general idea of its current value, or can refer to sale logs vs. what they paid for it.

As for what killed this game, it was making it completely Multi-player and forcing everyone to rely on having five man groups on top of moving well into a "Lets fucking find Waldo" situation in the catacombs. In addition you have a timer drop sytem that randomly gives everything to the same people and makes it undesirable to do a full explore. Although I will agree that we as the community have definitely pushed away all new players, but maybe if the game had been left as the competitive solo play it used to be (which made everyone strive to be awesome at "Proficiencies/items/GP's/CLimb Time/Chain Counter/Etc) then this would not have happened.
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Wrong. Nobody offers because the day and age of "Bidding" on items is long gone. You (The Seller) either know what you want for the item, or its not truly for sale. I don't bid specifically because I will not waste my time getting FG if you do not have a price. Everyone that holds onto gear has a general idea of its current value, or can refer to sale logs vs. what they paid for it.

As for what killed this game, it was making it completely Multi-player and forcing everyone to rely on having five man groups on top of moving well into a "Lets fucking find Waldo" situation in the catacombs. In addition you have a timer drop sytem that randomly gives everything to the same people and makes it undesirable to do a full explore. Although I will agree that we as the community have definitely pushed away all new players, but maybe if the game had been left as the competitive solo play it used to be (which made everyone strive to be awesome at "Proficiencies/items/GP's/CLimb Time/Chain Counter/Etc) then this would not have happened.


Then why doesn't me (the seller) just post the bin?

Kind of agree with the solo stuff but I like it now too. My laptops broke so I couldn't even play without all the phone updates.
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Quote (dude_927 @ 1 Jul 2018 02:31)
Ah now I remember what it was like trying to gather gear in this community, perhaps we should all think long and hard about what really killed this game, I suspect it wasn't the updates.

E: the only reason I ever mq'd at all was natester and datis (and Rex when sober lol)

Ee: look on softcore, everyone's afraid to offer cuz y'all are so elitist "pm me bin plz, I don't wanna look silly in front of everyone"


nobody offers on SC because people just fake offer their items.
They just hope that someone offers them 100k for their 100ee mq weap
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Quote (Meridius @ Jul 1 2018 08:59am)
nobody offers on SC because people just fake offer their items.
They just hope that someone offers them 100k for their 100ee mq weap


True, it's even worse on hc in that aspect. One seller will want 2k and one will want 300fg for the same item. I'm not sure that's anything we can work on though. I imagine price discrepancies happen everywhere.
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