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Jun 4 2018 09:17am
Don't ask don't tell bakeries?

compromise?


/// Legally complicated but a silly policy for a business

not baking cakes for people that have been divorced? cheated? had abortions? felonies related to doctrine?

unnecessary conflict over something that should unite us all, baked goods


This post was edited by Beowulf on Jun 4 2018 09:25am
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Lol. Describing the baker as an 'artist' when all he had to do was pipe a message onto the cake in icing. Guess I'm an artist because I type shit on this keyboard here.

America still a backwards theocratic shithole I see.
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Jun 4 2018 10:18am
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Lol. Describing the baker as an 'artist' when all he had to do was pipe a message onto the cake in icing. Guess I'm an artist because I type shit on this keyboard here.

America still a backwards theocratic shithole I see.


A couple had to go across the street to a different bakery... the horror!
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Jun 4 2018 10:23am
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Lol. Describing the baker as an 'artist' when all he had to do was pipe a message onto the cake in icing. Guess I'm an artist because I type shit on this keyboard here.

America still a backwards theocratic shithole I see.



What a shame! They had to go elsewhere to get their cake instead of this one operated by an obviously religious baker.

Should’ve asked for upfront payment and write a Bible verse in icing instead.
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Jun 4 2018 10:27am
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Lol. Describing the baker as an 'artist' when all he had to do was pipe a message onto the cake in icing. Guess I'm an artist because I type shit on this keyboard here.

America still a backwards theocratic shithole I see.


The judges found that in this specific case "treatment of his case has some elements of a clear and impermissible hostility toward the sincere religious beliefs that motivated his objection "

and did not give a circumstance binding decision

exactly what should have happened since it made its way to the top, they decided on the merits of THIS case and did not blanket it
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Jun 4 2018 10:32am
Gay couple drives 120 miles, past 67 other bakeries to get to this one Christian bakery.

To any sensible person it’s pretty clear what this was actually about. Authoritarian left/10

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Jun 4 2018 10:40am
Double edged sword here.. Neither option is without down falls.
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Jun 4 2018 10:46am
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The hard question presented by the case was this: did Colorado's anti-discrimination law violate the baker's First Amendment rights, to the extent it compelled him to create a cake for a same-sex wedding?

The Supreme Court sided, 7-2, with the baker. But the Court did so on much narrower grounds than the baker, and advocates, hoped for. The Court DID NOT resolve the conflict between religious belief and anti-discrimination law. In fact, the Court expressly declined to resolve that. Instead, the Court found that the question has to be resolved through a process free of religious bias and animus violating the First Amendment, and that here the Colorado administrative procedure showed clear bias.

Put another way, the Court said "however the question comes out, the decision-makers can't get there through express hostility to religious beliefs." The Court found that the Colorado administrative process showed just that anti-religious bias. There's an array of concurring and dissenting opinions that don't change the result, but that's the core opinion of the Court. So: the tension between anti-discrimination and the First Amendment is left for another day ... but Civil Rights Commissions can't indulge in gratuitous anti-religious rhetoric in the process of weighing such claims.


So they did not rule that the baker had the right to discriminate, they ruled that the case was tarnished. Expect to see another case like this rise through the courts again.
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Jun 4 2018 10:51am
Theres not even a link in Op or anything. Maybe they asked to make a dick cake or something.

Anyway, sure thing is BiGoTs' CounTry is BiGoT...
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Gay couple drives 120 miles, past 67 other bakeries to get to this one Christian bakery.

To any sensible person it’s pretty clear what this was actually about. Authoritarian left/10


So they targeted a baker they thought would discriminate and that makes his discrimination ok?

Got it.

If I provide someone with the opportunity to commit a crime then if they commit it they are absolved of all blame and their crime isn't a crime. Good to know.
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