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Jun 4 2018 12:42pm
People don't have skills for jobs , companies don't hire them. Older people unable to retire and survive on SS shrinking potential job opportunities and then companies investing profits to the eventual automation of many job industries/services.

Human beings going full tribal off the rails with social media and full uber populism for right wing/left wing politics is in full swing. All the while living in the safest time period in human history with the power to end life on earth and a growing climate change debacle continuing to increase and suicide rate/depression rate climbs and opined drug overdoses continue to rise.

Strap yourselves in folks. We are in for a ride.
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Jun 4 2018 01:09pm
Quote (IceMage @ Jun 4 2018 08:23am)
I hope everyone is comfortable with the fact that Trump is going to serve two terms.




I am. I hope the Democrats stay a bit quiet this year in fact, and don't take enough of a majority to impeach, by design. If the Democrats initiate impeachment, it will only divide us more and lead to an even worse GOP coup of the nation. Let Trump hang himself and the GOP with him. In 6 years, we'll elect someone as left as FDR for a change. Someone smart would have a team prepare a stack of executive orders to reverse every single Trump executive order and campaign on a promise that they will sign it all their first week in office and then get to work making us into a socialist nation.

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Jun 4 2018 03:22pm
Quote (IceMage @ 4 Jun 2018 10:23)
I hope everyone is comfortable with the fact that Trump is going to serve two terms.


My prediction:

Donald Trump will serve one term. The Special Counsel will recommend charges against Trump, including obstruction of justice.

Our country will face a Constitutional crisis regarding whether a sitting President can be indicted by the DoJ and whether the President can pardon himself. Ultimately, Rod Rosenstein will defer charges to Congress.

If the impeachment proceedings are after 2019, he will be impeached by the House, but the Senate will not convict him. If the impeachment proceedings are before the 2018 midterms, the House will not impeach Trump.

Trump will lose his bid for re-election in 2020. He will not resign, he will not be impeached, and he will not be removed from office.
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Jun 4 2018 03:31pm
Quote (ThatAlex @ Jun 4 2018 02:22pm)
My prediction:

Donald Trump will serve one term. The Special Counsel will recommend charges against Trump, including obstruction of justice.

Our country will face a Constitutional crisis regarding whether a sitting President can be indicted by the DoJ and whether the President can pardon himself. Ultimately, Rod Rosenstein will defer charges to Congress.

If the impeachment proceedings are after 2019, he will be impeached by the House, but the Senate will not convict him. If the impeachment proceedings are before the 2018 midterms, the House will not impeach Trump.

Trump will lose his bid for re-election in 2020. He will not resign, he will not be impeached, and he will not be removed from office.


Assuming he survives everything up until the next election I highly doubt he loses and would guess he probably wins by even more unless a unicorn Democrat appears but I also highly doubt democrats do anything politically smart enough to stop Trump in 2020
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Jun 4 2018 03:40pm
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Assuming he survives everything up until the next election I highly doubt he loses and would guess he probably wins by even more unless a unicorn Democrat appears but I also highly doubt democrats do anything politically smart enough to stop Trump in 2020


The biggest thing he has going for him is a strong economy and incumbency, but he's a historically unpopular president that won by thin margins in a wide variety of important swing states against a candidate with extremely poor favorability ratings.

If the Democrats nominate someone with net zero favorability and total turnout is even slightly better in 2020, they will likely win. We've seen large bumps in turnout in special elections over these past 1.5 years. Admittedly, the DNC might fuck up again, so Trump has that in his favor.
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Jun 4 2018 03:43pm
this rate isnt related to trump unlike unequaled destruction of international status of U.S.
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Jun 4 2018 03:58pm
Quote (Plaguefear @ Jun 4 2018 01:40am)
Conservatives did the same thing here, they force people out of the work force and then say unemployment is down, while less people are searching for work because they just gave up.


pathetic that you have to lie to maintain your delusions.



the biggest change was seen among those without a bachelors degree.

Quote (sir_lance_bb @ Jun 4 2018 02:42pm)
People don't have skills for jobs , companies don't hire them. Older people unable to retire and survive on SS shrinking potential job opportunities and then companies investing profits to the eventual automation of many job industries/services.

Human beings going full tribal off the rails with social media and full uber populism for right wing/left wing politics is in full swing. All the while living in the safest time period in human history with the power to end life on earth and a growing climate change debacle continuing to increase and suicide rate/depression rate climbs and opined drug overdoses continue to rise.

Strap yourselves in folks. We are in for a ride.


Were in an adjustment period. People have been predicting the apocalypse for 2000 some odd years

This post was edited by EndlessSky on Jun 4 2018 04:00pm
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Quote (inkanddagger @ 3 Jun 2018 23:06)
Let’s be sober about the employment numbers and jobs report. The # of Americans NOT in the labor force has hit record highs six out of the past eight months - 94 million Americans have given up looking for a full time job and are not working: https://data.bls.gov/timeseries/LNS15000000. That’s the worst in history. Additionally, about half of the new jobs created over the past 5 years are low paid gig jobs with no benefits. So if you’re wondering why, despite this huge news cycle about record low unemployment numbers, you have no job or your current job pays peanuts and offers no medical insurance, retirement benefits, etc... here’s your answer.



This is a pretty flat downward slope (and in actuality, the decrease in unemployment slowed when Trump was elected vs the year prior as represented on the graph). I don't see much contribution from Trump. What I said above still stands though: they all want to take credit for "jobs" but it's a lot of smoke and mirrors to achieve the narrative they are pushing on either side of the aisle.

https://ei.marketwatch.com/Multimedia/2017/05/05/Photos/ZH/MW-FL893_u6rate_20170505085247_ZH.png


According to the 2010 census there are 72M Americans under the age of 18, and 40M Americans who are retired.
You’re saying that out of the 214M Americans of eligible working age almost HALF are unemployed, and that’s not even considering those with disabilities unable to work?
So roughly 45% of Americans can’t find a job?

That doesn’t seem accurate.
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Jun 5 2018 08:53am
Quote (Cambridge @ Jun 5 2018 08:26am)
According to the 2010 census there are 72M Americans under the age of 18, and 40M Americans who are retired.
You’re saying that out of the 214M Americans of eligible working age almost HALF are unemployed, and that’s not even considering those with disabilities unable to work?
So roughly 45% of Americans can’t find a job?

That doesn’t seem accurate.


you we're doing so well until you implied they want jobs and can't find them.
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Jun 5 2018 10:42am
The economy is doing well because the government isn’t tightening its purse strings. If you can’t pay off debt when you’re in a great position then when else? There will likely be another recession within 10 years and the scope of economic intervention to boost aggregate demand in recessions is severely limited when holding debts of 80%+ of GDP
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