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May 30 2018 07:21pm
Quote (Arsenic_Touch @ May 30 2018 06:04pm)
Pointless legislation. Terminally ill patients were already allowed to use experimental medication with a waiver in which the majority of all cases have been approved by the FDA.
All this does is bypass the FDA and protect doctors and pharmaceutical companies from being sued if something goes wrong.
They can't get rid of the FDA, so they'll just pretend this is about helping patients get access to something they can't when it's about something else.


Speeds up the process, I'd imagine.

Quote (Saucisson6000 @ May 30 2018 06:17pm)
I picked this one randomly from WP, but theres ALOT of others specialists who argued against it. At least she have a phd and you ?

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Testing a new drug -on humans- and -collecting the results-, precious data directly going into the pockets of private pharma.

How about the hospital CEO starting to negociate his guinea pigs pool ? What's behind all this ?


Because it's not safe, and because they're concerned with the well-being of humans.
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May 30 2018 07:25pm
Quote (Saucisson6000 @ May 30 2018 09:17pm)
I picked this one randomly from WP, but theres ALOT of others specialists who argued against it. At least she have a phd and you ?

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Testing a new drug -on humans- and -collecting the results-, precious data directly going into the pockets of private pharma.

How about the hospital CEO starting to negociate his guinea pigs pool ? What's behind all this ?




There are plenty of similar medical conditions. Docs and pharma have been keeping ppl barely alive just for the dollars. Yes, this new rule will allow experimental drugs, but honestly, most won't work.
I'm pro euthanasia anyways. People should be allowed to die when they want. This new law from trump is just a first step.

I've said before in other topics, that over breeding is the problem. The only realistic solution is gonna be euthanasia.

Either way it puts the hurt on docs and big pharma.

/e try to remember that Trump is just the one on TV and signing the papers. He's relying on very smart men to make his ideas work.

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Quote (BardOfXiix @ 31 May 2018 02:21)
Speeds up the process, I'd imagine.
Because it's not safe, and because they're concerned with the well-being of humans.


In usa ? Healthcare is a business more than anywhere.

https://www.theatlantic.com/health/archive/2013/10/why-are-hospital-ceos-paid-so-well/280604/
"no link between nonprofit CEO pay and a number of important hospital quality indicators, including mortality rates, readmission rates, and the amount of charity care such institutions provide."

I have serious doubts :)

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In usa ? Healthcare is a business more than anywhere.

https://www.theatlantic.com/health/archive/2013/10/why-are-hospital-ceos-paid-so-well/280604/
"no link between nonprofit CEO pay and a number of important hospital quality indicators, including mortality rates, readmission rates, and the amount of charity care such institutions provide."

I have serious doubts :)


Specialists care about humans. The industrial machine does not. That is why you have quotes of specialists opposing the bill and the industry supporting it.
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May 30 2018 09:00pm
I wonder if people even realize what cancer is. It is a genetic issue and isn't really preventable... thought it is treatable, if found in early stages.

Once it metastasis...

The best thing to do would be to make an easy way to get screened for cancer, and take effort to make genetic histories if people are willing to be mapped, to watch for cancer.

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I wonder if people even realize what cancer is. It is a genetic issue and isn't really preventable... thought it is treatable, if found in early stages.

Once it metastasis...

The best thing to do would be to make an easy way to get screened for cancer, and take effort to make genetic histories if people are willing to be mapped, to watch for cancer.


You can reduce the chances you get it, but yeah, not really preventable because it's just a consequence of the universe's dissent towards entropy.

One reason a single-payer healthcare system would save us trillions is due to the early detection of preventable diseases. Cheaper to treat cancer early than late.
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May 30 2018 09:13pm
Quote (Thor123422 @ 30 May 2018 23:06)
You can reduce the chances you get it, but yeah, not really preventable because it's just a consequence of the universe's dissent towards entropy.

One reason a single-payer healthcare system would save us trillions is due to the early detection of preventable diseases. Cheaper to treat cancer early than late.


Yeah... Basically keep yourself fit, don't smoke and don't drink. All the other above or below drugs you can think of that your body isn't made to take in. This is the best preventative.
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May 30 2018 10:08pm
that shit aint gonna work anyway but ok let them try
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Quote (ChrisKz @ May 31 2018 02:13pm)
Yeah... Basically keep yourself fit, don't smoke and don't drink. All the other above or below drugs you can think of that your body isn't made to take in. This is the best preventative.


Cancer does not care if you are fit.
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May 31 2018 04:21am
Quote (Plaguefear @ May 31 2018 03:08am)
Cancer does not care if you are fit.



It kinda does... Obesity is an important factor of risk for a multitude of cancer types.
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