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May 13 2018 02:28am
Quote (Saucisson6000 @ May 12 2018 10:59pm)
First we can give a try for 500 millions, and not 200 millions,

http://www.bbc.com/news/10173293

Second, heres the original study

https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S0079610718300798

It's not a proof that octopus is coming from another planet... but more like an academic discussion exposing the possibility of [partial] panspermia
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Panspermia

IMO your post is over simplification for simple minds, leading to quick conclusions.

Without reading anything here i know theres several species and groups with abnormals amounts of genes, or abnormal high quantity of the same genes.

Those groups can generate more mutantion maybe, and in the long run can generate a vast diversity of sub-species or even create others groups, and then disapear. We could consider this possibility simply...

D2jsp does not deserve it, we better post unbearable boil crap like you did in my Stephen Hawking topic.


edit; nb; this can be linked to the famous cambrian life "explosion" problematics, a subject vastly exploited by jehovah witnesses
http://biblicalworldviewacademy.org/category/understanding-the-cambrian-explosion/
basically; when you dont have enough data/arent sure: claim it's probably because of GOD.


Frenchy relax, all life on earth was seeded by space dust.

This post was edited by Ep0ch on May 13 2018 02:29am
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May 13 2018 03:42am
Check Turritopsis Dohrnii. Pretty neat?

Quote (Ep0ch @ May 13 2018 10:28am)
Frenchy relax, all life on earth was seeded by space dust.


This is pretty much correct.
I mean we are from space. And if you look out of the window you might realize, we are in space :D
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Fake News and reported. srry
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May 13 2018 03:46am
Quote (Ep0ch @ 13 May 2018 09:28)
Frenchy relax, all life on earth was seeded by space dust.


Heavy elements are coming from stars, some complex molecules can come comets, but yet nothing proove lifeforms are coming from outer space.
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May 13 2018 03:57am
Quote (Saucisson6000 @ May 13 2018 11:46am)
Heavy elements are coming from stars, some complex molecules can come comets, but yet nothing proove lifeforms are coming from outer space.


yet nothing proves that the life in earth was formed in earth.

/e Erich Von Däniken Aussaat und Kosmos 1972. Was intriguing perspective.

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Quote (Saucisson6000 @ May 13 2018 04:46am)
Heavy elements are coming from stars, some complex molecules can come comets, but yet nothing proove lifeforms are coming from outer space.


Wrong.

Water bears have evolutionary traits that could only occur if it evolved in space, exposed to the conditions required for an evolution to occur that results in resistance to said conditions.
These things are literally covering the entire planet.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tardigrade


Meanwhile Cephalopods have the ability to recode their own DNA/Genes. Essentially a cephalopod can force evolution on itself, almost instantly.
No other creatures on earth do this, as far as I am aware.

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Quote (Ep0ch @ May 13 2018 12:01pm)
Wrong.

Water bears have evolutionary traits that could only occur if it evolved in space, exposed to the conditions required for an evolution to occur that results in resistance to said conditions.
These things are literally covering the entire planet.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tardigrade


Meanwhile Cephalopods have the ability to recode their own DNA/Genes. Essentially a cephalopod can force evolution on itself, almost instantly.
No other creatures on earth do this, as far as I am aware.

-e

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZSMhVWMjXfk


Also we don't have reliable information about earth around those times.
Example: If there were none or only little atmosphere, that would cause more of suns radiation to reach earths surface.
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Quote (Crud1ty @ May 13 2018 05:16am)
Also we don't have reliable information about earth around those times.
Example: If there were none or only little atmosphere, that would cause more of suns radiation to reach earths surface.


But why would evolutionary traits from like a billion+ years ago still be dominant among some species and not others?

-e

The most obvious answer is they are to newly introduced to the evolutionary pool of earths biome.

-e2

I guess it's also posisble that maybe the species with these traits are the only species native to old "earth" and everything else was introduced later.

Interesting, I would not have considered that without this line of discussion. tyvm. (But this would sort of change how we think evolution works, so on I am doubtful)

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Quote (Ep0ch @ May 13 2018 12:27pm)
But why would evolutionary traits from like a billion+ years ago still be dominant among some species and not others?

-e

The most obvious answer is they are to newly introduced to the evolutionary pool of earths biome.


Why some animals live in water and others on land? I don't think the evolutionary traits can be used as evidence since we don't know about life elsewhere. Nothing to compare with.
This discussion is rapidly headed towards discussion about evolution. Yet another debate about theories. :D

Don't get me wrong, I love theories. What I mean is it's just always dangerous to go for conclusion if you aren't properly backed up :)
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Quote (Crud1ty @ May 13 2018 05:36am)
Why some animals live in water and others on land? I don't think the evolutionary traits can be used as evidence since we don't know about life elsewhere. Nothing to compare with.
This discussion is rapidly headed towards discussion about evolution. Yet another debate about theories. :D

Don't get me wrong, I love theories. What I mean is it's just always dangerous to go for conclusion if you aren't properly backed up :)


Because there is food on land and in the water?

All of these topics are related imo.

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