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Apr 19 2018 12:21pm
Quote (yupitsmeh @ Apr 19 2018 02:18pm)
why x version of cpu also?
why subpar sound card when onboard is just about there too unless you want sbx studios or something


http://cpu.userbenchmark.com/Compare/AMD-Ryzen-7-2700X-vs-AMD-Ryzen-7-2700/m475904vsm470612

the software that comes with the sound card is a must for me, if you think the card is subpar give me a better one
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Apr 19 2018 12:28pm
Quote (Exii @ Apr 19 2018 01:21pm)
http://cpu.userbenchmark.com/Compare/AMD-Ryzen-7-2700X-vs-AMD-Ryzen-7-2700/m475904vsm470612

the software that comes with the sound card is a must for me, if you think the card is subpar give me a better one


ok you want sbx just asking I use sbx also

and if you are overclocking both will be the same
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Apr 19 2018 12:42pm
l see, though im not comfortable to overclock myself so ill just pay extra
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Apr 19 2018 12:44pm
Quote (Exii @ Apr 19 2018 01:05pm)
im waiting for the top gpu that will come out during summer, my current gpu is 6 year old garbage

the case is really not that pricey, doubt ill save much if l switch to another and regret it a few years later by not having space

if you can say that l wont need 1k watt for the 1180ti then ill do the switch

l was fearing that the cpu cooler wasnt enough, will take the upgrade


For a single modern GFX Card, 750 will be plenty. Peak draw from the 1080ti is around 300w, and chances are the next gen will be even more efficient.

https://ca.pcpartpicker.com/list/Hpwskd
Swapped to the updated version of that case. You can choose whether or not you wanna pay the extra $30 for TG.
Found you a better optical drive (includes BD write), for less.


Quote (Exii @ Apr 19 2018 01:42pm)
l see, though im not comfortable to overclock myself so ill just pay extra


It's a lot easier than you think. It's not some sorcery like it was over a decade ago, most high end motherboard chipsets (eg x470) have the bios setup for easy overclocking. You can just google the settings that people are able to get stable with your CPU, then just drop it down 1-200 mhz and you should be fine. Again, all really easy to change settings from the BIOS.

This post was edited by zell1luk on Apr 19 2018 12:48pm
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Apr 19 2018 12:52pm
and you are 100% sure that its the exact same as the 2700x if its overclocked to that, no temp differences or a lesser life cycle
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Apr 19 2018 01:06pm
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and you are 100% sure that its the exact same as the 2700x if its overclocked to that, no temp differences or a lesser life cycle


The x chips are binned, which means that if you were pushing for max overclock, you might be able to get a bit higher with the x version, or on less voltage, but I can tell you that a non-x can still generally overclock to at least it's x counterpart's boost speed (meaning you could easily get to the stock speeds on the x with the non-x CPU)
It's only a $40 difference, so if that's not much to you, just get the x version. You'll have the power, you'll have the support, and you'll have the cooling to overclock a decent bit, so you can just have a bit more fun with the x IMO (what's an extra 40 on a 3k build).
As for temp difference and life cycle, those are based on how much voltage it takes to get those chips to the desired clock speed. It won't change much, as most Ryzen 5/7 chips of the same generation are the same chip with more/less cores activated, the rest comes down to the silicon lottery, and you can't buy your way into that one.
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Apr 19 2018 01:11pm
Quote (zell1luk @ Apr 19 2018 02:06pm)
The x chips are binned, which means that if you were pushing for max overclock, you might be able to get a bit higher with the x version, or on less voltage, but I can tell you that a non-x can still generally overclock to at least it's x counterpart's boost speed (meaning you could easily get to the stock speeds on the x with the non-x CPU)
It's only a $40 difference, so if that's not much to you, just get the x version. You'll have the power, you'll have the support, and you'll have the cooling to overclock a decent bit, so you can just have a bit more fun with the x IMO (what's an extra 40 on a 3k build).
As for temp difference and life cycle, those are based on how much voltage it takes to get those chips to the desired clock speed. It won't change much, as most Ryzen 5/7 chips of the same generation are the same chip with more/less cores activated, the rest comes down to the silicon lottery, and you can't buy your way into that one.


agreed except for last line.
Theres sites you can pay a premium for silicon thats been verified to run in the upper percentile.
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Apr 19 2018 01:12pm
yeah ill just take the x version in this case, thanks for the large explanation

l cant edit first post so this is the current build: https://ca.pcpartpicker.com/list/Hpwskd

l gave 150fg to zell1luk for cpu cooler, psu and drive
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Apr 19 2018 01:18pm
Quote (King Atrhur @ Apr 19 2018 02:11pm)
agreed except for last line.
Theres sites you can pay a premium for silicon thats been verified to run in the upper percentile.


Was unaware of that, MB.
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Apr 19 2018 01:31pm
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Was unaware of that, MB.


no worries its much to rich for us peasants anyways.
Seen a few binned chips that normally run 300 retail go for like 1,500.
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@op what exactly is the purpose of the rig. Don't care to read whole thread.
Just wondering if its worth going to a platinum class PSU for the long haul on savings.
I mean at 10 year warranty I feel it will pay for itself if under heavy loads daily.

If you don't pay for electricity though I'd just forget it.
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