its quite sad that you believe these caricatures



meanwhile in reality they have often pushed policies that help small businesses and donated to small business advocacy groups.

I never attributed saintlike motives to Soros. I said he donates where he does because he thinks he's doing the right thing. Then again you've never been willing to describe anybody else's position accurately.

Meanwhile, the Kochs are scumbags because they will actively donate AGAINST their own positions if it means increasing their own personal wealth.

Can you identify for me where Soros makes donations simply because he will make a profit? You guys are drawing this weird equivalence between the Kochs and Soros even though their motivations are pretty easy to discern.

The front face of the Met museum was built by the Koch's

Youre completely delusional

This post was edited by EndlessSky on Apr 25 2018 07:48pm

This filthy game of assuming guys on 'your side' have purely good motives and smearing libertarians and conservatives is all too common these days.
I point it out and get the usual screeching and false personal claims in return.

The kochs have plenty of initiatives that they dont expect to profit $ from.

As I was saying before, supporting terrible groups isnt a good thing just because you don't think they are directly making money from it.
Self interest is not evil.

Supporting free market and smaller government policies doesn't mean they only do so because they might make more money.
Its quite possible to have sincerely held beliefs that conflict with the anti-intellectual degeneracy of the left, despite the consistent assertions to the contrary.



Stop crying that i used the adjective 'saintlike'. What you are doing is clear.
The use of the word didn't fundamentally alter your position and tactic, and isn't evidence of your consistent and absurd assertions that i don't describe anyone's positions accurately.

It actually does fundamentally change the nature of my claim since I don't necessarily think Soros is doing good or bad. But again, you're not capable of the type of thought required to understand another's position.

Yeah, the Kochs have a lot of charity work they don't expect to benefit from. I'm meaning their political donations and contributions are only to candidates that will secure them a ROI.

However it's also important to understand that charitable donations also typically make people and groups like the Kochs money. Essentially they donate something that is sellable for 5 million to a university. They then have an appraiser say it's worth 50 million, and they can recover 30% of that appraised value in taxes and make a profit. So charitable donations aren't necessarily indicative that they aren't wanting to make an ROI. It's a common tactic to actually decrease their tax burden by more than the actual value of the item.

This post was edited by Thor123422 on Apr 25 2018 08:12pm

More scummy false personal attacks instead of intellectual debate. You have years of practice honing this 'skill'.

Your position on their motives that i am highlighting is clear and you are squirming and insulting to avoid dealing with the merit of what i am saying.

You are very clearly feeding into a false dichotomy between the supposedly altruistic motives of soros and pretending the kochs only donate for a return.



Another claim that assumes motive and doesn't hold up to a seconds thought of examination.
They donate quite often to a number of organizations and candidates and no intelligent person would think they are going to expect to profit from each donation.

I am calling bullshit on this notion that when Soros funds leftist propaganda organizations and politicians hes doing it out of the goodness of his heart but when the kochs donate to a politician or fund an organization its only for profit.
In both cases they would prefer politicians and policies they support to succeed.

This post was edited by cambovenzi on Apr 25 2018 08:34pm

cam intellectually slapping the state subsidy recipient on a variety of issues. this place never changes

We all know your response on every issue is left bad right good,k no point in posting anymore.

another embarrassing misrepresentation as an excuse to continue your dismissive anti-intellectual behavior.

Yes, yes we got it, right good, left bad.