Hello,
I do not understand why the USA do not help Muslims to change their culture a bit.
Do you realize that there is a serious incompatibility between Islam and democracy?
Muslims insult Jews and deprive other citizens of their freedom.
Muslim culture, as it stands, forbids people from not believing in God.
Why do the USA allow Islam in their country?
Please, explain to me.
My ancestors lived for 2546 years in Algeria so I think I know muslim culture well.

Why do Americans allow Islam in their country?
Please, explain to me.



Ça fait longtemps qu'il y a des séfarades en Afrique du Nord, depuis avant même la naissance Mahomet.
Il est donc fort possible que les séfarades connaissent bien la culture musulmane.
Puisqu'ils ont en quelque sorte assisté à sa naissance.
Vous le voir sur ce schéma:



Nous savons qu'il y a des choses graves qui sont dites dans la religion musulmane:

• les musulmans veulent imposer à tous la croyance en Dieu, ce qui est contradictoire avec la démocratie au sens large
  Dans une démocratie, chaque humain, grâce à sa liberté individuelle, est le garant d'un bon dirigeant pour le pays.
  Il faut se révolter en cas de dérives totalitaires.
  Et il faut régulièrement choisir qui sera le prochain dirigeant.
  Bref, il faut être libre.
  Et ça implique d'être libre, même de ses croyances.
  Donc il y a une incompatibilité profonde entre l'islam et la démocratie.
  
• les juifs sont traités de singes et de porcs
  C'est une atteinte à leurs droits d'humains.
  Le 5e instrument de la CERD condamne les discriminations raciales.
  Et en plus, c'est une atteinte à leurs droits de citoyens.
  
• il y a d'autres éléments plus secondaires: la Charia qui est prônée, la peur phobique est encouragée, les châtiments sévères sont encouragés (couper un bras à un voleur)...

Le jihadet les interactions avec les autres communautés culturellessont deux éléments majeurs de la culture musulmane.
Et c'est normal.
Mais ce sont de mauvais choix qui sont faits.

On ne peut pas se permettre d'espérer que les musulmans réussiront à se débrouiller pour cultiver leur intelligence alors qu'implicitement on les prive de 2 éléments majeurs de leur culture.
Mon avis, c'est qu'il faut leur offrir des alternatives.
Il faut les aider à trouver une façon d'interagir avec les autres communautés culturelles qui soit autre que le racisme.
Il faut les aider à préciser dans quelles conditions doit être fait le jihad, et ne pas les laisser croire que "le mécréant c'est tout ce qui n'est pas musulman".

Il faut les aider à trouver un moyen de faire le jihad, mais sans blesser les sept autres principaux courants culturels.
Il faut les aider à protéger leur intégrité vis-à-vis des autres communautés culturelles, mais sans blesser ses autres communautés, même pas par des insultes.

Voilà, c'est ça qui doit être fait.
C'est ça que les USA devraient faire.
Pourquoi ne font-ils pas ça?
L'islam, en l'état actuel, devraient être interdit, théoriquement, aux USA.
Comment les USA osent-ils prétendre être un pays de liberté, alors qu'il y a, aux USA, 3,000,000 de musulmans qui ont un islam dangereux?

http://forums.d2jsp.org/topic.php?t=78322083&f=276&p=530216337

This post was edited by Chevaucheur on Apr 18 2018 04:25am

Because muslims are people too and a lot of them are non practising anyway.

Interesting stuff, but this forum is English only. Unless my phone is automatically translating it or something. Would be interested to read more if you can write it in English.

There's no incompatibility there's just hysterical people freaking out about it. If Christians and Jews can come here and do you find the Muslims can come here and do fine. We let the Catholics get away with the pederasty stuff but everyone else has to follow the laws.

Everybody who lives in this country has been an immigrant at some point. There's the nativists people who think white people have been in America forever but they're Liars.

This post was edited by Skinned on Apr 18 2018 04:44am

Just to let you know the french part of the OP contains things like

"
Islam, in the current state, should be banned, theoretically, in the USA.
How do the US dare to claim to be a country of freedom, while there are, in the US, 3,000,000 Muslims who have a dangerous Islam?
"


Btw i could be agree it should be, along with the other shit religion not allowing to eat this or that, and saying gentile(s) arent even humans... Thanks...

This post was edited by Saucisson6000 on Apr 18 2018 04:54am

The word "democracy" comes from the Greek "demos" and "cratos".
It significates power to the people.
The people hold power.

The people is responsible for its leaders.
The people must revolt if the leaders make a totalitarian drift.
The people must choose, regularly, who will be the next leader.

The people have great responsibilities.
And the people have the duty to be free.

For a democracy to work, citizens must be free.

The first democracy in the world was Greece.
At that time, people were subject to laws.
People used to meet regularly on the hill of Pnyx to do politics.

Here is a picture of the hill of Pnyx:



All the citizens were meeting there.
This assembly was called "Ecclesia".

In ancient Greece, all citizens met regularly to engage in politics.

All the citizens gathered there, because all the citizens were free.
Freedom is something indispensable in a democracy.
It has always been the case.

And Islam deprives citizens of freedom by indirectly forcing them to believe in God.

The US may no longer be a democracy.
You must defend your freedoms.
That's democracy.

You must sing in the street that you do not believe in God.
You must provoke the Muslims, to show them that you are free.

This post was edited by Chevaucheur on Apr 18 2018 04:57am

I think the o p thanks for Freedom means eliminating people who don't think like you or behave like you.

The United States is a free Multicultural Society and Muslim people are welcome here.

Our culture is not frail and we have taken waves and waves of immigration throughout history. We are not a country of White Anglo-Saxon Protestant anymore. WASP are still very very privileged and enjoy it.

This post was edited by Skinned on Apr 18 2018 05:03am

For op muslims (all of them) == dangerous thing that should be forbidden in usa.
So i ironically answered: "allright, then remove jewish religion too".

Multicultural at its best.

If you are an oppressed person of the world you can come to the United States and be free.

The unwashed huddled masses yearning to be free.

Yes there are some people here who will treat them badly but they're people everywhere he would treat them badly at least here the people will be free to make their lives better.

This post was edited by Skinned on Apr 18 2018 05:05am