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Apr 16 2018 09:16pm
Quote (tbow @ Apr 16 2018 11:16pm)
viktor is 100% a control mage


prob should switch out of mid lane ok

it's clearly not for you
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Apr 16 2018 09:48pm
Annie if you have no mechanics
Kat seems to be always in the top, and highly impactful at all points in the games
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Apr 16 2018 10:26pm
Quote (Flopps @ Apr 16 2018 09:16pm)
prob should switch out of mid lane ok

it's clearly not for you


How is Viktor's W not a control spell?

Quote (tbow @ Apr 16 2018 08:24pm)
viktor/syndra seem like in a poor place currently?
seems like all control mages have been on the lower win rate this season


The best mid laners right now are very macro oriented champions which means their win rate will be lower for the general population
Like Ryze/Taliyah

This post was edited by FroggyG on Apr 16 2018 10:27pm
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Apr 16 2018 11:15pm
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How is Viktor's W not a control spell?



The best mid laners right now are very macro oriented champions which means their win rate will be lower for the general population
Like Ryze/Taliyah


has a single hard cc =/= control mage

do you consider yasuo a control mid because he has a q knockup, arguably stronger than viktor's w?

what about zoe? do you think she's a control mage?

This post was edited by Flopps on Apr 16 2018 11:19pm
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Apr 16 2018 11:43pm
Quote (Flopps @ Apr 16 2018 11:15pm)
has a single hard cc =/= control mage

do you consider yasuo a control mid because he has a q knockup, arguably stronger than viktor's w?

what about zoe? do you think she's a control mage?


Long duration ground aoes that can zone = Control Mage
So Zoe does have elements of a control mage, yes.

How do you define a control mage?

This post was edited by FroggyG on Apr 16 2018 11:43pm
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Apr 17 2018 12:21am
Control mage
Mainly creating zones that are unfavorable to fight (generally alot of aoe dmg/cc)

Alot of viable mid champs have control aspects to them lol. You can zone with the threat of dmg (e.g. Sandra balls azir soldiers) or the more obvious ones in the form of soft/hard cc ( vik w, anivia r veigar e etc) or physical barriers (taliyah r, anivia w, azir r). The whole point of a contol mage is have more control than other mages to dictate where enemy is allowed to go.

There are other champs that can do this but not for prolonged amounts of time for a given teamfight

Anivia and taliyah are the big ones.
Ori vik as well

The way you word it makes it sound like you want a split push mid
Personally love tp mids and ones that can roam
corki/ryze/taliyah are a good start

This post was edited by potentate on Apr 17 2018 12:32am
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play ahri my dude
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ive been playing corki alot and hes great outta lane, but i want somebody who has more lane pressure
anivia seems like it would fall into the same boat of not really winning lane but just out farming them

seems like ahri/malz the way to go?
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as an adc main i can promise u if u play veigar im going to get tilted from getting 1 shot in team fights xd
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