My belief is that greed and self interest are strong human traits and that libertarianism is not a new concept, it has never lead anywhere good.
Libertarian stateless society is just a shittier dog eat dog status quo.

Its still better than everything else

If I could get some of you alt right "libertarians" to read Marx, or Bakunin, or Proudhon, and seriously discuss them with me, I am betting I could get some of you to actually understand enough to help you argue your own points in an informed, well-reasoned manner.

Yeah. They call it the middle east.

buh buh but the stated societies violated the NAP and attacked them!

Yeah dumb shit, that's what happens when you refuse to pay taxes and have no defensive capabilities.

who is saying this?



who is advocating no defensive capabilities?
attacking a strawman then calling people dumbshits. mental midget thor is at it again.

Sorry bro, farmers with rifles get stomped when faced against a foreign formal army. And a formal army only exists when you tax to pay for it.

anti-intellectual misrepresentation of what libertarians advocate



false.

This post was edited by cambovenzi on Apr 18 2018 12:05am

Doesn't matter what you "advocate" for. The system you want would make raising an actual army to defend against modern invaders impossible.

Free rider problem bro. In the end you'll have a few people who are well off enough to afford personal security (who will relocate to a stated society because it's more efficient in every way than what you advocate for) and everybody else stays in small non-advancing tribes.





This post was edited by Thor123422 on Apr 18 2018 12:15am

No it wasn't, modern day statism is much better than the robber barons of the past.
The more social safety nets in place the better the life of the average person.
If I broke my leg tomorrow I would not lose thousands of dollars.


Exactly, though I foresee some corporations taking advantage.

This post was edited by Plaguefear on Apr 18 2018 12:21am