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Apr 11 2018 01:30am
Considering all other gear is the same and you dont use gobs or other items with cb. At what point does a martel outperform a Max ed snap on lord de seis (8p game)?
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Apr 11 2018 02:28am
Snap is weak asf 8p game unless you got high str
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Apr 11 2018 03:26am
Quote (Mountaindewy @ Apr 11 2018 08:28am)
Snap is weak asf 8p game unless you got high str


I am pretty sure a 172 damage snap outperforms 250 damage Martel if you consider 170 str as base, especially on seis since snap gives an extra 100ed to undeads~~ but it would be interesting to pinpoint exact damage on weap when martel is outperforming snap...
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Apr 11 2018 03:38am
hi noobs

use martel + goblin toe >>>> snap

even a 23x martel.

its more important to have cb, than to have alot of cb

greetings, a superior player

lets not forget that lifeleech works on pure dmg dealt, means with snap you leech less

and even without gobs, a martel kills faster than snap (220 damage)

This post was edited by SCAMMERMAN on Apr 11 2018 03:40am
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Quote (SCAMMERMAN @ 11 Apr 2018 10:38)
hi noobs

use martel + goblin toe >>>> snap

even a 23x martel.

its more important to have cb, than to have alot of cb

greetings, a superior player

lets not forget that lifeleech works on pure dmg dealt, means with snap you leech less

and even without gobs, a martel kills faster than snap (220 damage)


This is exactly.. not what he asked. Your replies are always ~ useless (for lack of better words).

Quote (noangel @ 11 Apr 2018 08:30)
Considering all other gear is the same and you dont use gobs or other items with cb. At what point does a martel outperform a Max ed snap on lord de seis (8p game)?


Although I cannot follow the reasoning of this guy/multi. I agree with his outcome :). He must have guessed it right.

I would use a martel over snap. Jorrit has tested both this seazon so maybe you should have a chat with him.

And regarding the pinpoint.. I think (as many things) testing has the best outcome. Just clear seis area and kill him with base attack with snap and several martels (compare # of hits). Ofc AR is also an important factor :). These forums are nowadays only populated with people who miss the exact d2 knowledge to give you an answer :p.
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Apr 11 2018 09:01am
Many factors must be taken into account for a strict calculation since these weapons don't have the same range...

Different range involve how fast you're moving ( boots, increase speed, party aura ? ) and your play style as long/short ww ( e.g: will you stay into the weapon range until the monster is dead )

Was on the way to compare Bonesnap Vs Martel, so if you don't mind to provide some infos/stats i could start with your specific case ? ~
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Apr 11 2018 11:11am
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Quote (Zymotics @ Apr 11 2018 12:53pm)
This is exactly.. not what he asked. Your replies are always ~ useless (for lack of better words).


i laugh about you, because i know how you look like in real life

145 kilo @ 1.75 cm height

your birth can be seen as a step in the wrong direction

but it is good to know, that due to your physiology you are not able to reproduce

by the way... you first say that my answer is useless and then you agree with me?

i concluse that youre not only morbidly obese, but also quite simple-minded.

regards, SCAMMERMAN
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Apr 11 2018 12:19pm
cb gets reduced the more players are in game
ppl usally say 220 mart with leech is better then snap, i disagree tho for single or low populated games
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Apr 11 2018 11:24pm
Quote (SCAMMERMAN @ Apr 11 2018 06:11pm)
i laugh about you, because i know how you look like in real life

145 kilo @ 1.75 cm height

your birth can be seen as a step in the wrong direction

but it is good to know, that due to your physiology you are not able to reproduce

by the way... you first say that my answer is useless and then you agree with me?

i concluse that youre not only morbidly obese, but also quite simple-minded.

regards, SCAMMERMAN



just wanted to report your post, but as always its already been reported...

for the topic i personally stay with snap till i get a 280+ dmg martel since snap is way more than needed in most cases.
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Apr 11 2018 11:33pm
Quote (noangel @ 11 Apr 2018 10:26)
I am pretty sure a 172 damage snap outperforms 250 damage Martel if you consider 170 str as base, especially on seis since snap gives an extra 100ed to undeads~~ but it would be interesting to pinpoint exact damage on weap when martel is outperforming snap...



word, for pvm a martel needs around 240 dmg + leech to beat a snap

pvm barb with gobs ^^

This post was edited by KaterMikesch on Apr 11 2018 11:34pm
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