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Apr 7 2018 10:55am
Quote (Subzer0isGG @ Apr 7 2018 10:48am)
Not much one player can do when you’re goalie has an off year and your defence started the season injured to key players and forced everyone out of position and your GM decides not to address the issue in the off season.


You sure Talbot shouldn't have won the mvp last year instead of mcdavid

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Not much one player can do when you’re goalie has an off year and your defence started the season injured to key players and forced everyone out of position and your GM decides not to address the issue in the off season.


no such thing as goalie off year. no way mcbust wins it
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Apr 7 2018 10:57am
Quote (Chadzle @ Apr 7 2018 10:55am)
You sure Talbot shouldn't have won the mvp last year instead of mcdavid



Pretty fair assessment. Talbot + larason + Sekera were alll key factor last year. All floundered this year and even with mcdavid having career highs we are shit
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Apr 7 2018 10:58am
Quote (Subzer0isGG @ 7 Apr 2018 11:57)
Pretty fair assessment. Talbot + larason + Sekera were alll key factor last year. All floundered this year and even with mcdavid having career highs we are shit


exactly. he hasn't helped your team win games.

he has just padded his stats.

thats not mvp material
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Apr 7 2018 11:05am
Quote (Pens @ Apr 7 2018 10:58am)
exactly. he hasn't helped your team win games.

he has just padded his stats.

thats not mvp material


He’s out performed all others in regular season by quite a margin. And it’s an award for “most valuable to his team during the regular season.”

Turns out most times that player is on a playoff team. This year he isn’t at no fault of his own.

To think he’s not on the conversation is asinine.
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Apr 7 2018 11:13am
Quote (Pens @ Apr 7 2018 05:58pm)
exactly. he hasn't helped your team win games.

he has just padded his stats.

thats not mvp material


not making the playoffs =/= not winning games

that's like arguing patrick kane is useless because the hawks aren't winning enough games to make the playoffs
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Apr 7 2018 11:14am
McDavid should win the Lindsay but not the Hart imho. Can't give it to a player who carried his team to a bottom 10 place.. No matter how badly other player on the team played.
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Apr 7 2018 11:14am
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not making the playoffs =/= not winning games

that's like arguing patrick kane is useless because the hawks aren't winning enough games to make the playoffs


I never said mcdavid is useless. He is a world class player.

But he didnt help his team succeed, at least not enough for a winning season/post season.

Hall did that.

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Apr 7 2018 11:17am
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McDavid should win the Lindsay but not the Hart imho. Can't give it to a player who carried his team to a bottom 10 place.. No matter how badly other player on the team played.



The Lindsay and hart are the same trophy go to same player.
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Apr 7 2018 11:18am
Quote (Pens @ Apr 7 2018 11:14am)
I never said mcdavid is useless. He is a world class player.

But he didnt help his team succeed, at least not enough for a winning season/post season.

Hall did that.



It’s not an award on making your team succeed. It’s an award about being most valuable. And when you’re in on 46+% of your teams goals compared to the next closest at 38%. That’s saying something.
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