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Apr 2 2018 10:34am
The content is alright, but ultimately when looking at the stuff op posted from the outside, it seems to follow the same route many feminism-related conversations eventually take. Somehow, men are again the victims. This time the message is cleverly merged with concerns for future employment of women to make it look better. It's like justifying corporate tax evasion by saying the extra money obtained goes into creating new jobs and boosting the economy.
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Apr 2 2018 11:45am
Quote (Neptunus @ 2 Apr 2018 18:34)
The content is alright, but ultimately when looking at the stuff op posted from the outside, it seems to follow the same route many feminism-related conversations eventually take. Somehow, men are again the victims. This time the message is cleverly merged with concerns for future employment of women to make it look better. It's like justifying corporate tax evasion by saying the extra money obtained goes into creating new jobs and boosting the economy.


its actually pretty simple: if feminists and the metoo-movement want to grant women the ability to immediately ruin any man's career with unproven accusations, they are turning female co-workers into toxic time-bombs with which no sane male wants to surround himself.

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Yes, this high standard of living sucks.

/s


you're assuming that its the leftist policies that created our high standard of living, while it's rather capitalism coupled with a healthy dose of welfare state. oh, that and of course the exploitation of natural resources and poor people in third world countries.

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well they kind of fucked themselves
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Quote (Black XistenZ @ Apr 2 2018 11:45am)
you're assuming that its the leftist policies that created our high standard of living, while it's rather capitalism coupled with a healthy dose of welfare state. oh, that and of course the exploitation of natural resources and poor people in third world countries.


It's really not an assumption.

Public education, limiting pollution, our flu medicine not being 75% morphine....

Anybody here could go on for days about everything that liberals have fought for that makes our lives better. The boom post WWII wouldn't have happened without a healthy dose of leftist policies to educate the masses to fill jobs to rebuild the world.
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Apr 2 2018 11:55am
Quote (Skinned @ Apr 2 2018 11:48am)
Yes, this high standard of living sucks.

/s


Totally not a result of technology or something
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Apr 2 2018 12:03pm
men not hitting women, #metoo / topic

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Quote (Black XistenZ @ Apr 2 2018 01:45pm)
its actually pretty simple: if feminists and the metoo-movement want to grant women the ability to immediately ruin any man's career with unproven accusations, they are turning female co-workers into toxic time-bombs with which no sane male wants to surround himself.



you're assuming that its the leftist policies that created our high standard of living, while it's rather capitalism coupled with a healthy dose of welfare state. oh, that and of course the exploitation of natural resources and poor people in third world countries.


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its actually pretty simple: if feminists and the metoo-movement want to grant women the ability to immediately ruin any man's career with unproven accusations, they are turning female co-workers into toxic time-bombs with which no sane male wants to surround himself.


the execution of the accused comes from the media attention, not from someone standing up against being sexually harassed. That seems like a common mistake ppl make.
The duality is that media attention is a necessity for change, to create a movement, while the media attention itself already is a sentence given to the accused before a trial. I don't really see a way to work around it.

In my country we sometimes take a damaged reputation as a part of a conviction which can result in a reduced jail time or fine. But that's only a compensation when someone is already guilty of a crime.

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It's really not an assumption.

Public education, limiting pollution, our flu medicine not being 75% morphine....

Anybody here could go on for days about everything that liberals have fought for that makes our lives better. The boom post WWII wouldn't have happened without a healthy dose of leftist policies to educate the masses to fill jobs to rebuild the world.


as I said: capitalism coupled with a healthy dose of welfare state.

but it for sure werent the pussy-hat wearing third wave feminists that created our high standard of living.
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Quote (Black XistenZ @ Apr 2 2018 08:52pm)
as I said: capitalism coupled with a healthy dose of welfare state.

but it for sure werent the pussy-hat wearing third wave feminists that created our high standard of living.


Women working didn't raise standards of living ?
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