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Apr 3 2018 04:17pm
Quote (Santara @ Apr 3 2018 06:15pm)
Government works to promote the intersts of the rich and powerful. This isn't news. Government works to promote and protect the oligarchy, which is not the textbook definition of "doing the best it can for its citizens."


I asked for you to explain one or two things that could be changed, without breaking the system as it exists today.

/e I mean anyone can run around complaining about things. Having a solution or a suggestion for a solution is a bit harder.

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Apr 3 2018 04:22pm
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I'm an anarcho-primitive at heart.


My man!
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I'm an anarcho-primitive at heart. But with the advent of nuclear bombs & unmanned aircraft a state-run military is pretty appealing.


Nuclear bombs and UAVs are the direct results of state-run militaries.

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I asked for you to explain one or two things that could be changed, without breaking the system as it exists today.

/e I mean anyone can run around complaining about things. Having a solution or a suggestion for a solution is a bit harder.


Breaking the system is the goal.
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Apr 3 2018 04:38pm


If I had my choice, it would be for a parcel of land, a few head of cattle, a few sheep, a garden for vegies, near fresh water and near a small town for luxuries.

But then, I remember things like...

Dentists with anesthetics
A life span of more than 30-35 years
Doctors with anesthetics.
Telephones for emergencies
Assistance. with my cattle, and sheep and farm, when I fall and break my leg(s), ya know, hunting in the winter maybe.
Entertainment beyond a monthly square dance.
Assistance with protecting my parcel of land and assets from robbers, or highwaymen.


The society we enjoy today, is really complex. It has millions of parts that require other parts to function. Like building blocks.
We'd all like a more idyllic type of existence. But in order to have that there starts an unending growth towards something pretty much like we have today.
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Apr 3 2018 04:46pm
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Anarcho-primitivism > Anarcho-capitalism > hybrid > Communism > Socialism

I just want to be free. To enjoy the mountain breeze and be responsible for only myself (at least legally). Therefore, I like freedom-maximizing government structures.

I prefer communism to socialism because if I have to be a slave to the state or society, I want other people to be expected to produce as well. Unlike socialism where I'm enslaved to take care of non-producing members because "fairness".
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Apr 3 2018 04:48pm
Quote (Ghot @ Apr 3 2018 05:38pm)
If I had my choice, it would be for a parcel of land, a few head of cattle, a few sheep, a garden for vegies, near fresh water and near a small town for luxuries.

But then, I remember things like...

Dentists with anesthetics
A life span of more than 30-35 years
Doctors with anesthetics.
Telephones for emergencies
Assistance. with my cattle, and sheep and farm, when I fall and break my leg(s), ya know, hunting in the winter maybe.
Entertainment beyond a monthly square dance.
Assistance with protecting my parcel of land and assets from robbers, or highwaymen.


The society we enjoy today, is really complex. It has millions of parts that require other parts to function. Like building blocks.
We'd all like a more idyllic type of existence. But in order to have that there starts an unending growth towards something pretty much like we have today.


Believe It or Not barbarians did not commit suicide and people were a lot happier before the philosophical death of God.

It is so easy to be comfortable now that nobody accomplishes anything except for a few producers.

Capitalism has alienated people so far from their life's work that they don't even consider what they produce as theirs. Because it isn't theirs, they just work the create Surplus value for their employers after paying their own salary.

I have to do mission based work. I can't just work for the enrichment of another human being. I wouldn't be able to do something like that. But I can be picky because I am speaking from a position of privilege.

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Believe It or Not barbarians did not commit suicide and people were a lot happier before the philosophical death of God.

It is so easy to be comfortable now that nobody accomplishes anything except for a few producers.

Capitalism has alienated people so far from their life's work that they don't even consider what they produce as theirs. Because it isn't theirs, they just work the create Surplus value for their employers after paying their own salary.

I have to do mission based work. I can't just work for the enrichment of another human being. I wouldn't be able to do something like that. But I can be picky because I am speaking from a position of privilege.




Yeah, and where are the barbarians now? Dead that's where.
Not to mention all the rape, murder and pillage they did for a living.

Btw, there's a book with the solution to your people are alienated from their work, in the scifi book: Nova by Samuel R, Delany. I'm sure you can find it free as .pdf or the like.
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Apr 3 2018 07:17pm
Quote (Santara @ Apr 3 2018 02:37pm)
I want a stateless society.


good luck staying alive
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Apr 3 2018 10:33pm
Quote (Skinned @ 3 Apr 2018 18:48)
I can be picky because I am speaking from a position of privilege

which nullifies the rest of your misguided rage essay
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Quote (Sicktricks @ Apr 3 2018 05:17pm)
good luck staying alive



Id keep him alive as my sex slave
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